TurboNova Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Looking into doing a 351w roller build. Want a stock efi 351w roller complete motor. let me know what you got. I am in Columbus Ohio. prices and location to vwfiero@gmail.com may still do a 302 build but wanting to look into the 351 build here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 SO you want a complete motor,long block shork block or just block? I ask becouse it says complete but you saw you are gonna do a build.. If a build then buy a block and do a 393 for the same money. I have a spare 78 351 complete non roller I chould sell (I have a roller as well with 408 rods and pistons but not trying to sell those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 complete long block from running vehicle. I am contemplating between doing a stock 302/351 turbo build. If I do the 351 I will just do studs,gaskets and most likely rod bolts. If I do a 302 its more of a time bomb so I will just do head studs and gaskets and maybe a tfs1 cam and explorer intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff1647545535 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Call and talk to Rob (GearHead). He was talking to some one the other day about 7 complete 351's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88lxvert Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 hey i know a local company that sells motors and has 10 rollers and one c9 without heads all rollers 300 with heads and without 200 pm me if you want contact info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 pms sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88lxvert Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 it may have been me who jeff is speaking of also we where talking about it last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 ok yeah still in the planning stage on the new project. Might do a stock 302 roller fi engine as well. Just too early to say, just doing some planning. I guess Id like to see the car live in the mid to low 10's for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 if you want it to live longer, use a older block..they are much thicker then the later roller blocks, and the older ones can be converted rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I guess I am leaning towards 302 with explorer intake and tfs1 cam. Still just doing a bunch of research. I might be on the prow for a roller 302 engine pre 93 if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 the tfs1 is a good one, so i the b303 ford cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
302Powered Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I have a 96 Explorer short block with an E cam if you are interested. Around 90k on the short block. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Were explorer motors forged pistons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Were explorer motors forged pistons? no..nothing after 92 did, if i remember right... but here http://www.stangbangerz.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dan build a 393 they are cheap and you know what you have and you can use old block with roller convert and it will live a good amout of time at 700whp and need low boost to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 yeah I dont know really if I want to build a 351 motor or not. I do want the car to live....but I do like the idea of just doing a stock 302 build with a couple cheap bolt ons and making 400-500 wheel and 302 shortblocks are a dime a dozen. Are roller conversions for a SBF cheaper then a SBC? have not looked into it but a hyd roller in a old sbc can be 700-1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 all you need is the lifters and holder from a roller 5.0, and run (maybe tap on some) 2 bolts in the valley.(depending on the block used) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 really that is it?i figured the lifter bore bosses were too low... and I take it you need to tap the front of the block for the thrust plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 all fords have a thrust plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 all you need is the lifters and holder from a roller 5.0, and run (maybe tap on some) 2 bolts in the valley.(depending on the block used) that is not so for most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Link bars are kinda expensive. And some people say they are a little noisy. ford uses a spider and dog bone set up to hold the lifters in place. It's a bit cheaper and quieter. They last forever. But, it's not quite a drop in job. You'll need to drill and tap two small holes in the lifter galley. Some blocks might need a little grinding around the tops of the lifter boss so the dog bones sit flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Rob the lifter bosses are to short and cause a prob if used with oe lifters you must buy retro fit ones that are shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Rob the lifter bosses are to short and cause a prob if used with oe lifters you must buy retro fit ones that are shorter not if he is going to use a later 351 block that is already to setup for it. just have to buy the spider kit for a 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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