Absolutely sick

[RedRocket1647545505]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyq90LEZe4k&feature=player_embedded#

[SpaceGhost]

What's the cost of a membership there?

[cinergi]

A good find. A friend of my who travels worldly and does a lot of shooting has mentioned Europe going to a system like that. Pretty good idea, but it would almost have to be a club that didn't allow just anyone to walk in off the street and shoot. Look at what NASR has ended up as because of this--it used to be SUPER nice.

 

Of course if they didn't allow LE to shoot there, a lot less collateral damage would happen.

[smokin5s]

probably way too much!

[SpaceGhost]

The puzzling thing to me is, I thought it was hard as fuck to get a firearm in the EU.

[Scotty2Hotty]

The puzzling thing to me is, I thought it was hard as fuck to get a firearm in the EU.

 

Hell go to California or Mass, and see how easy it is to own/buy a firearm.

 

Here's an interesting bit I got on German laws (Germany has been a leader in firearms manufactering for centuries IE- Mauser, STG-44, Luger, MG-42, MP5, UMP45, G36 etc..)

 

To own a gun in Germany, one must posses a license issued by the police. Target shooters must be members of a legitimate club, must attend a 3-day safety class, and must pass a written and practical exam. Strict limits are placed on the number and types of guns one may own: "Assault weapons" (defined as guns having the "outer form" of a full-auto gun, regardless of actual functionality) are illegal, and the law limits target shooters to a maximum of 8 single-shot .22s. Perhaps surprisingly, a very wide range of guns are in fact legal, including almost any handgun available in the U.S., to people who hold the appropriate license. A dealer informed me that a particular H&K rifle was legal with a grey plastic stock, but would be considered an "assault weapon" if the stock were black. Hunting rifles and shotguns exactly like those in the US are available for sale, but the Germans seem to prefer double and triple-barreled guns (say, one 12ga. barrel, one .270, and one .44 mag, on the same break-action stock) to the more familiar bolt and pump repeaters.

 

A hunting gun requires a hunting license, which is issued only after a 1-year class (2-3 times a week) and an exhaustive test. Applicants get only one chance to pass this test. I personally knew one woman who planned on getting hunting license primarily because she would enjoy learning woodcraft and tracking, and secondarily so that she could keep an heirloom shotgun in the family after her grandfather died (if no one in the family had had a hunting license, the gun would have gone to the local police).

 

Concealed carry is legal for those with permits. Permits are issued on a "may-issue" basis to those who can prove a "need." In reality, this means that NO ONE gets permits except professional bodyguards. Self-defense generally is stigmatized. One woman who was a martial artist informed me that martial arts training was a liability legally; if she injured a rapist, she could expect to be charged with assault and have her karate knowledge used as evidence against her. It is technically illegal to keep a loaded weapon at home--guns and ammo have to be stored "securely," a term which is undefined in the law. A recent change in the law will require that they also be stored separately. Shooting a home invader before he shoots at you is likely to be regarded as murder. Since there are no juries in Germany, you'd better hope you get a sympathetic judge.

 

Buying a gun, gun parts, or ammunition, even .22, is legally impossible without a license unless your gun will be immediately exported. Ironically, mail-order guns are common--just send in a notarized copy of your license, and they send the gun to your door. In what is perhaps the oddest result of tight gun laws, Germans can choose from a plethora of realistic-looking "Scare-guns," which are almost indistinguishable from the real thing, but which fire only blanks, or in some cases, pepper spray and CS tear gas. Where American gun shops proudly display racks of pistols, German shops have similar racks of fake pistols available for immediate, no-license purchase. Until recently carrying a fake gun for "self-defense" was generally legal; a new law will require a "fake gun CCW" permit.

 

Unfortunately, this could become a reality in the United States if it weren't for organizations like the National Rifle Association.

[SpaceGhost]

I think some of those sanctions could have come from us post WW2, we had enough of their douchebagery.

[jjjxlr8]

 

 

Unfortunately, this could become a reality in the United States if it weren't for organizations like the National Rifle Association.

 

 

And the fact that the majority of the population wouldn't stand for BS like that!

[Scotty2Hotty]

And the fact that the majority of the population wouldn't stand for BS like that!

 

Trust me by all means I'm 100% with that part of the population, but the sad part is, our .Gov could sneak their agenda in. I don't see it happening, but in the same token, the Freedom could be infringed on by a substatial margin.

 

 

BTW- That range facility is amazing. I'd be more than willing to pay for a membership knowing I don't have complete retards in a booth next to me.

[RedRocket1647545505]

It's almost $170 for 1 hour on their 300m lanes.

.223 is almost $1/rd. there.

 

Yikes.

[SpaceGhost]

That will deter gun collecting and shooting.

 

Unless you are wealthy, hey europe as a whole hasn't learned anything from history. That should be a DeJa Vous moment for them.