WideOpenThrottle Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hey, I recently upgraded my PC and got a Blu-Ray burner, I was wondering what software people are using to burn and what sites you may use to get Blu-Rays and convert to be burnt and with what software. Just curious to see what everyone is using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 #1: They are Blu-ray discs, not Blu-Ray DVD's #2: You will need to buy some BD-R's. I HIGHLY recommend the Optical Quantum BD-R's, you can score them right now on NewEgg for $9.99 shipped for a 10-cake pack. Good luck finding discs cheaper than that. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607024&cm_re=optical_quantum_bd-r-_-17-607-024-_-Product #3: Imgburn, the only burning software you should use. It is free, simple, effective, and excellent: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download #4: If you are ripping Blu-rays, you will needed DVD Fab or AnyDVD HD. I used to use DVD Fab, but pretty much it is thought that the software isn't as sorted out and is less consistent. I have great luck with AnyDVD HD: http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html #5: If you don't want to buy AnyDVD HD, you will need to run Novakiller 1.7, which you can find on various torrent sites (Piratebay, Demonoid, etc). This resets the 21 day trial. #6: If you want to compress Blu-ray movies that are on dual layer discs (90% of them are), by far your best best is BD Rebuilder. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BD_Rebuilder and http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716 should get you going. You will need to also install: FFDSHOW: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/ffdshow_rev3326_20100319_clsid.exe Matroska Splitter: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/MatroskaSplitter.exe AVISYNTH Version 2.57: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe How good is your PC? If are running a single core anything, don't even bother. If you are runnning a low-end dual core, you can bother, but you better have about 2 days to compress a single movie. It takes my i7 920 @ 4.2GHz a good 3-4 hours to compress a single movie - more for TV shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Here is my guide I have been creating, but it is unfinished. Here is what I have thus far: Guide to Blu-ray compression / burning Blu-ray burning - it is not only possible now, but the available tools are good enough that you can do it with relative ease, once your rig is setup for it. The following guide is based on the equipment I use, so there may be some differences if you are using other equipment (such as Windows XP, or a non-PS3 Blu-ray player). I will also NOT cover any sort of ripping techniques, as I don't need all the legal BS for that. There is software out there to do it, such as AnyDVD, DVDFab, etc. My setup: Intel Core i7 920 on a Asus P6T Motherboard, overclocked to 4.2GHz (stock is 2.8GHz) 6GB 1600Mhz Ram, four 160gb 7200 RPM hard drives in a RAID-0, all running all Windows 7 Ultimate LG BH08LS20 Blu-ray burner (8x), plus a couple of DVD Burners PS3, updated to latest firmware. Mitsubushi 73" DLP, Harmon Kardon AVR 254 (7.1 with HDMI audio processing) If you are attempting any of this with a single core PC, don't even bother. You will barely get away with a dual-core rig, and won't be happy with the extensive amount of time it will take - I was spending 30-40 hours per movie with my old dual-core AMD setup. If you are hoping for an all-in-one program, like DVD Shrink, it doesn't exisist. The following is the list of software you will need installed on your PC: BD Rebuilder: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03404.zip FFDSHOW: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/ffdshow_rev3326_20100319_clsid.exe Matroska Splitter: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/MatroskaSplitter.exe AVISYNTH Version 2.57: http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe Image Burn: http://www.imgburn.com/ AVCHD Patcher 1.04: http://www.videohelp.com/download/AVCHD-Patcher_1.04.rar AVCHD Patcher 1.06: http://www.videohelp.com/download/AVCHD-Patcher_1.06.rar Install all of the above. Just copy the BD Rebuilder into your main drive, then create a short cut for the executable on your desktop. Just copy the AVCHD patchers to your desktop. The rest just install like normal programs. The first time you run BD_Rebuilder, right click it and run as administrator (unless you are still rolling old-school with XP – you shouldn’t be). The basics: Most Blu-ray movies are made on dual-layer discs, in the mid-40GB size. A lot of the 5+ year old film rips (and an occassional new rip) will fit on a single layer disc. Because I am not going to get into restructuring movies, streaming, etc., I will avoid going over all of the file types, demuxing the video files, etc. 90% of all Blu-ray films have the entire movie in one file, usually the largest file in the BDMV/STREAM folder. It is a .m2ts file, which is a container file (similar to a .zip file) that holds the video, audio streams, and subtitle streams. The video can be in VC-1 or h.264, and the audio can be in any of the AC3 and DTS configurations (and usually several flavors of them). A dual-layer Blu-ray disc is very expensive (about $10/disc if you shop around), so that's out of the question. A BD-25 (single layer blank Blu-ray disc) can be had for a tick over $1/disc if you shop around. I You can also burn Blu-ray movies onto single layer DVD's (DVD-5) and dual layer DVD's (DVD-9). Now you have probably seen the "HD" content on things like Netflix or Apple's streaming video, and noticed that their 4-5GB movies are basically DVD quality. Not the case with this at all. I have burned Blu-ray movies on DVD-5 discs that look FAR better than the same movie in DVD that is on the original dual layer DVD disc. This software is THAT good. When Blu-ray is burned on these DVD's, they are refered to a BD-5 / BD-9. Now let's talk about compression a bit. All digital movies are compressed, be it DVD, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, etc. I've seen feature length films on Blu-ray discs (new stuff) anywhere from 18 GB up to 46 GB. So however the studio authored the disc has everything to do with how highly compressed the film is out of the gate. I have compressed a 40 GB move down to 4GB, with barely any noticeable loss of video quality. Let's talk audio. Both Dolby Digital and DTS have their flavors of HD Audio. The ONLY way you can get this audio is through a receiver with HDMI audio processing - your little optical cable won't cut it, even if your Blu-ray player processes the HD audio. What is cool about both formats is that they down convert automatically. So if you have a non-HD receiver, you can still get the standard AC3 or DTS signal, as those are the "core" components of the HD audio...you just miss the rest of the audio content the HD audio has to provide. HD audio streams aren't small - usually 5-7GB, and you can't compress them, otherwise you are back to standard AC3/DTS. So any time you put a movie on a DVD-5/DVD-9, you lose the HD audio, and just get the standard AC3/DTS surround. You can keep it with BD-25. BD-5 / BD-9 limitations: - If the BDMV/BDJO folder has a file named 00000.bdjo, you can only do a movie-only backup. You CAN NOT do a full back up - don't waste your time trying. If you want a full back up, you will have to use a BD-25 disc. This is fully true with a PS3;l perhaps other players don't have this limitation. - You have to process the index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv files using AVCHD in order to play a BD-5 / BD-9 disc. If not, it will just show as a data disc in your player. Let's setup BD Rebuilder: Mode: - Choose Full Backup or Movie-Only Backup - "Quicker" Encode for extras should be unchecked Settings: - Click on setup - Make sure to check the "limit to one" check boxes under the Audio and Subtitle boxes, and make sure both boxes are setup for English(eng) - Under General Encoding Options, check the remove WORKFILES after rebuild, and the Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9 Movie-Only - Leave Video Encoding Options as default - Under Audio Encoding Options, check "Don not convert DTS to AC3", "Do not reencode AC3", and "Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding" Here are the sizes I use for different discs, as BD Rebuilder is too conservative on disc space, and doesn’t use up all the disc. BD-5 = 4490 BD-9 = 8152 BD-25 – 23866 up to 24300 (depending on the BD-R – the Optical Quantums work with the higher number). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morabu Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 #5: If you don't want to buy AnyDVD HD, you will need to run Novakiller 1.7, which you can find on various torrent sites (Piratebay, Demonoid, etc). This resets the 21 day trial. happen to have a different type of link to that file? nzb/rapidshare/direct link? i don't use torrents J.R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideOpenThrottle Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thanks for the help Nitrousbird I appreciate the guide and the points. Very through and you know your stuff! I just got a whole new system. Here is what I'm working with Processor Core i7 870 Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 upgradable to 24Gigs Running 6 Gigs of RAM (Corsair XMS3 6GB DDR3-1600 (PC-12800) CL8 Triple Channel Memory Kit Tera-bite harddrive ATi Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 x16 Video Card 6950PE52G Diamond ATi Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 Video Card Corsair Professional 650W Modular Power Supply LG Blu-Ray burner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Your system should be up to par to compress movies efficiently. Video card won't make a difference, as the software doesn't utilitze it at all. If you are overclocking at all, make sure you are monitoring your temps, as you will be maxing out that CPU for extended periods of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstangOH Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Do any of you guys sell any blu ray's? ill take some if so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 I don't, never have, never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Thanks for the help Nitrousbird I appreciate the guide and the points. Very through and you know your stuff! I just got a whole new system. Here is what I'm working with Processor Core i7 870 Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 upgradable to 24Gigs Running 6 Gigs of RAM (Corsair XMS3 6GB DDR3-1600 (PC-12800) CL8 Triple Channel Memory Kit Tera-bite harddrive ATi Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 x16 Video Card 6950PE52G Diamond ATi Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 Video Card Corsair Professional 650W Modular Power Supply LG Blu-Ray burner Nice 6950. Thats one card I would worry about having a bigger powersupply for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideOpenThrottle Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Nice 6950. Thats one card I would worry about having a bigger powersupply for. How much of a bigger power supply should I have? The guy said it was plenty enough for the system but some times the guys are just bull shitting ya. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morabu Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 as long as you have a quality power supply, with at least 1 powerful 12v rail,you should be good to go. and by the looks of your post, i think your good. but don't try to run 2 on that power supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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