Bahnstoermer1647545488 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 NRA publications have been making the world aware of this for months. I hope every anti-gun homo in the Administration pays for this, Holder most of all. I had no idea until a few years ago the ATF is totally an anti-2nd amendment organization... Edit - by the way, if you haven't heard of this months ago, you need to join the NRA. Everyone in this forum should be a member. They fight for our rights day and night, and send out emergency notices when our local / national governments are trying to take our rights away. There was a huge inpouring of pamphlets that the NRA sent to it's members a few years ago at the turn of the administration - I signed four slips and sent to four lawmakers, essentially saying "I'm a gun owner, and I Vote. Don't you dare attack the 2nd Amendment." LOL It was listed a strong reason Obama Admin backed off pursing the the Clinton era bans... and all I had to do was be a member of the NRA, sign a few slips of paper and mail. BOOM. Political results. Amazing. I don't even have to sweat the details because the NRA does for me.... YOU NEED TO BE MEMBERS! Do it for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 The Truth About Gun Walker Did the Washington Post inadvertently provide a smoking gun? by John Hayward, HUMAN EVENTS MAGAZINE 06/24/2011 Earlier this week, the Washington Post ran a hit piece on Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Oversight committee, designed to imply – without evidence –that Issa was aware of “Operation Fast and Furious” all along. That would be the astonishing Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms operation that deliberately flooded Mexico with American guns, and which Issa’s committee has been investigating. The thinking behind planting such a story is almost as appalling as the “Gun Walker” scandal itself. If the story was true, and Issa had been aware of Operation Fast and Furious during its execution, would that make it somehow… excusable? In other words, the Congressman’s hypocrisy would be of greater interest than an Administration initiative that killed over 150 people, including a U.S. Border Patrol agent? According to Bob Owens of Pajamas Media, his sources confirm this piece “had been shopped around to other news outlets and blogs by the Obama administration since the House Oversight Committee hearings last week.” Everyone except the Post took a pass. Owens’ colleague at Pajamas Media, Hans A. von Spakovsky, today brings us a story that shows this isn’t the first time the Washington Post has either been duped by the Administration, or willingly served its ends, in the Gun Walker scandal. It might also be one of the first “smoking guns,” if you’ll pardon the phrase, that sheds light on the true purpose of Operation Fast and Furious. “On December 13, 2010,” von Spakovsky relates, “the Post ran a story about U.S. gun dealers with ‘the most traces for firearms recovered by police.’” This story included “the names of the dealers, all from border states, with the most traces from guns recovered in Mexico over the past two years.” The point of this story was to assail a law passed in 2003 that shields the government’s gun tracking database from public view, and convey the impression that a lot of guns were illegally flowing over the border to be used in Mexican crimes. The Post made a point of reminding readers how this law was passed “under pressure from the gun lobby.” Because of the very law its reporters were carping about, the Post would need to have obtained the data for its story either from an ATF leaker, or by hacking the ATF database, which von Spakovsky notes is “a far-fetched and highly unlikely scenario.” You would think the ATF would have become very upset, had its legally protected database been compromised by hackers, and the information used to generate a five-page story in the Washington Post. A leak is far more likely. I know what you’re thinking, and you’re right about where this is going. Just wait until the end of the story before you pop a blood vessel. “Two of the gun dealers the Post’s story assailed were Lone Wolf Trading Co. in Glendale and J&G Sales in Prescott, Ariz.,” reports von Spakovsky. “Lone Wolf Trading is number one on the list for Mexican traces; J&G is number three.” There is one more important fact about Lone Wolf Trading Company and J&G Sales that you need to know. Would you like to guess what it is? That’s right: they were both participating in Operation Fast and Furious. In other words, they were Number One and Number Three on the list of Mexican gun traces, because the ATF wanted them to let guns “walk” across the border. In a Fox News interview, the owner of J&G Sales specifically stated the ATF instructed him to “keep selling” guns to drug cartel front men. The Post story was published the day before Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was murdered with a Gun Walker weapon, an event that prompted sheer panic among the geniuses running the operation at the ATF, according to recent House Oversight testimony. This was also around the time congressional Democrats and the Administration were heavily pushing a fabricated statistic that 90% of the guns used in Mexican crime come from U.S. gun stores. Connect the dots: a story that almost certainly required information leaked by the ATF, in a paper noted for its friendliness to the Administration, was used to build the case that lax American gun control laws are contributing to Mexican gun crimes, when the ATF was secretly running a program that deliberately pushed American guns into the hands of Mexican cartels, without any serious plan to track them, until they were used in the commission of crimes. Now, take an educated guess what the true purpose of Operation Fast & Furious was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahnstoermer1647545488 Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 This shit is just out of control. Heads should roll for this poltically contrived bullshit. Hell, someone died, possibly as result of this government orchestrated scam.... oh wait, it wasn't just someone, but a US law enforcement officer? Oh, and I wonder why "stonewall" is the word that I keep hearing for what the Obama administration is doing regarding inquires into the matter. Holder and Obama are gun control butt buddies, you know damn well they both knew the plan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Operation Castaway http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/breaking-news-tampa-sac-full-meltdown-shredders-are-buzzing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/11/family-murdered-patrol-agent-seek-justice/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C77301 Family of Murdered Border Patrol Agent Considering Suing Feds Over 'Fast and Furious' The family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry wants justice, and that may include suing the federal government. "If the evidence shows Brian's death was proximately caused by the negligence of the federal government, there may be a cause of action," said Terry family attorney Paul Charlton. Terry was killed in December 2010 at the hands of an illegal immigrant working for the Sinaloa Cartel while patrolling an area near Tucson known as Rio Rico. Officials traced the gun found at the scene to Operation Fast and Furious, a weapons trafficking program run by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that let guns travel south of the border. Generally speaking, government officials can't be sued for damages, however misguided or incompetent. Yet, there are exceptions when agencies can reasonably foresee their actions will do harm. While it's too premature to know who likely would be fingered in a suit, it is possible that top ATF and Department of Justice officials could be the targets. Defendants successfully sued the FBI three times when their informants committed murder. The U.S. government was made to pay millions of dollars to the victims families after it was found that federal agent created an unreasonable risk of harm to them by helping the informants avoid arrest. The IRS was also sued for close to $1 million when it failed to supervise one of their informants who also committed murder. According to Charlton, the Terry family says it doesn't want U.S. officials prosecuted criminally, but civil court is something else. "Anyone who put these weapons in the killers' hands may be liable," he said. Charlton was Arizona's U.S. Attorney for 7 years. He understands the ATF and the internal chain of command on an operation the size of Fast and Furious. "I have never seen an investigation in which guns were intentionally allowed to walk. That sort of thing does not happen, ought not to happen," he said. Charlton says a decision on future legal action will depend on the evidence. Congressman Darrell Issa, chair of the House Oversight & Government Reform Committee, initiated hearings on the Hill after learning the ATF helped sell thousands of guns to known criminals. His hearings opened a floodgate of evidence against the agency, and provided a forum for whistleblower agents to air their concerns, which included multiple warnings to supervisors that the program was going to kill people. Those warnings were ignored, despite reports showing Mexican police were recovering Fast and Furious guns at crime scenes throughout that country. "Brian Terry's loss was preventable," said Issa. "It was regrettable and preventable." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greg1647545532 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hell, someone died, possibly as result of this government orchestrated scam.... No, he died because some criminal shot him. Remember, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Let's not go around blaming the guns here, or the people who made the guns, or the people who sold the guns. Amiright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Criminals were provided the guns by criminals, whom happen to work for the ATF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 If the ATF hadn't given them guns, they'd just have used knives, or pointy sticks. Amiright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 If the ATF hadn't given them guns, they'd just have used knives, or pointy sticks. Amiright? It doesn't matter. The fact is that the ATF allowed the sale of weapons to people who shouldn't have been able to legally buy them. This practice lead to a criminal being able to use a gun he shouldn't have been able to get to kill a border patrol agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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