jjjxlr8 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2013/02/25/front-sights-monday-blog-here-is-our-next-president/#vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 So you don't have to click the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I support the thoughts up to about 4:45 where he goes into discussing tyranny in the US. I think that part of the argument needs to be left out. Makes everyone think conspiracy theory wacko gun nut. The previous argument about personal protect and stats regarding the use of semi auto rifles is more solid to discuss if you're looking fight the cause. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I support the thoughts up to about 4:45 where he goes into discussing tyranny in the US. I think that part of the argument needs to be left out. Makes everyone think conspiracy theory wacko gun nut. The previous argument about personal protect and stats regarding the use of semi auto rifles is more solid to discuss if you're looking fight the cause. Just my opinion. Doesn't make me think "conspiracy theory wacko gun nut." You don't think tyranny is something we need to be concerned with in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 You don't think tyranny is something we need to be concerned with in the US? Not saying that at all. I'm saying don't put that argument in the same one as the first part. If you want to discuss "crime control" and the problems of mental illness and the medication madness that's cool, I'm 110% behind those conversations, but I don't want that mixed in with Tyranny and fear of gov't. Fight those separately as the opposition will gladly mix everyone in the same pot of gun lover wacko's and will focus on the tyranny part and leverage the rest as just a supporting piece to the tyranny cause. Make sense? Divide and conquer and focus on battles separately before moving forward with an approach that exposes a greater likelihood of having to defend a view that others are more open to seeing and agreeing with. In reality though, I don't care if everyone here on CR has AK's and AR's, if the military / gov't wanted to take over Cbus, none of us would stand a chance at stopping them. The rebels overseas are struggling and the gov't they are fighting isn't armed nearly as well as ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 In reality though, I don't care if everyone here on CR has AK's and AR's, if the military / gov't wanted to take over Cbus, none of us would stand a chance at stopping them. The rebels overseas are struggling and the gov't they are fighting isn't armed nearly as well as ours. I'm not so sure about that. I'm betting a rebel militia could cause one hell of a mess for the US military. The Afghans pretty much fended off the Russians with a large pile of rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'm not so sure about that. I'm betting a rebel militia could cause one hell of a mess for the US military. The Afghans pretty much fended off the Russians with a large pile of rocks. I agree with this although heavily out armed I think some serious damage could be done to the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The question I'm curious of, is how many of our military men and women would fight against their own people? 50/50? 75/25? There are something like 80 million gun owners in the US, even if just a small fraction of that number were willing to fight, that's still a whole lot of people. Related to OP, I'm a fan of Whittle most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 ...gun lover wacko's ... You keep using this term... What do you mean? I don't think that most people who are concerned with the concentration of government power are "gun lover wackos." Why do you think that many congressmen and woman want to disarm the public? Many have said so in public forums, others behind what they thought were 'closed doors' but the fact is that there are plenty of people in our government that feel people should not own firearms at all. There are plenty of Countries outside the US that have the same goal - to disarm the American People. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1647545496 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'm not so sure about that. I'm betting a rebel militia could cause one hell of a mess for the US military. The Afghans pretty much fended off the Russians with a large pile of rocks. i agree, the key however is communication. the govn't will try to label us as terrorists and pic us off one by one starting with the biggest threats the ones that are the easiest to sell (with the help of the media) as dangerous or terrorist organizations. and no matter what the truth is they will always put a spin on it so their actions seem justified. it's the war with no front lines that scares me the most. how are we going to be able to communicate when they shut off cell phones and internet. how many of us really have short wave/ham radios? p.s. i'm buying this http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4200/wn7ep/products/21093/images/21023/fedepicxm855bar__83037.1357925774.1280.1280.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 <== One man wrecking crew. No comms needed. The military also has to play by a set of rules. I have no rules and would therefore play dirty as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1647545496 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 <== One man wrecking crew. No comms needed. The military also has to play by a set of rules. I have no rules and would therefore play dirty as fuck. How am i supposed to come save you when your surrounded without comms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Let's not turn this into a 'fight the government' thread...lol. That scenario is highly unlikely and not really the point of the speech. Did anyone notice that the video was a bit off? To me, it seemed that the speech was not actually delivered to congress, but filmed separately and video bits were added in to make it look like he had an audience. The sound and the lighting and the cuts seemed off to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Let's not turn this into a 'fight the government' thread...lol. That scenario is highly unlikely and not really the point of the speech. Did anyone notice that the video was a bit off? To me, it seemed that the speech was not actually delivered to congress, but filmed separately and video bits were added in to make it look like he had an audience. The sound and the lighting and the cuts seemed off to me. Bill Whittle isn't really addressing Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Bill Whittle...thanks. I had know idea who he was but I liked what he had to say and I like the way it was delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Bill Whittle...thanks. I had know idea who he was but I liked what he had to say and I like the way it was delivered. Sure thing, check out his YouTube channel, he has a lot of good things to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I dig it. It's amazing to me that a presentation like this can be argued by the antis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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