Farkas Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 http://www.automoblog.net/2013/03/31/the-mkv-supra-is-finally-here/ It’s time to bring some old school to the new school, and welcome the 3JZ engine. This will be a 3.5 L inline 6 twin turbocharged monster underneath the hood, with an estimated 560 hp in the base model. To get around the emissions laws it will have a system similar to the Prius but this option can be turned off. Essentially it’s an electric motor that can kick in at highway cruising speeds that will increase mpg along with an active aerodynamics system. ... While the exact specs are still a bit fuzzy, we are hearing that it will have an active AWD system as well that will send the masses of hairy chested brutal power to the rear tires, while the front tires will have a small amount of power distributed to them as needed to pull those few extra g’s Toyota needs to outshine the GT-R. http://www.automoblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2014_supra_03-623x331.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 electric motor lol. Whats the MSRP on that? says 50-60k.... how about "lol" at that... I bet they aren't a dime under 70K PS... ugly... until proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 me likey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I like the specs. Hopefully they will make it look a bit better than it's current prius-mated-with-an-frs look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 electric motor lol. Whats the MSRP on that? says 50-60k.... how about "lol" at that... I bet they aren't a dime under 70K PS... ugly... until proven otherwise. What does a GT-R go for? I imagine it will be cheaper. And of course it's ugly.. it's a concept still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I could care less how it looks for the most part, but would like to see less of a hot wheels look. I just want to see how fast the sombitch is :fuckyeah: Now, how close is the 3JZ to the 2JZ? I know the 2JZ is really an impressive motor, but what can the 3JZ do that the 2JZ does not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staywide8 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 What does a GT-R go for? I imagine it will be cheaper. And of course it's ugly.. it's a concept still. 104K for the premium, 110k for the black edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I could care less how it looks for the most part, but would like to see less of a hot wheels look. I just want to see how fast the sombitch is :fuckyeah: Now, how close is the 3JZ to the 2JZ? I know the 2JZ is really an impressive motor, but what can the 3JZ do that the 2JZ does not? It can be fitted to a new car? If the FA20 in the FRS is any indication of how the 3JZ will handle power, then 4 digit hp figures should be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Interested to see how this turns out; with the massive following the MK3 and MK4 have the prices will probably inflate a bit, regardless on launch. AWD is definitely interesting for a Supra, glad it's mainly RWD though still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I could care less how it looks for the most part, but would like to see less of a hot wheels look. I just want to see how fast the sombitch is :fuckyeah: Now, how close is the 3JZ to the 2JZ? I know the 2JZ is really an impressive motor, but what can the 3JZ do that the 2JZ does not? Engine technology has progressed quite a bit since 1992. I would expect direct injection and cam phasing at least, with possibilities for variable timing and lift and variable geometry turbo's. The MPG concerns will be greater with this than the 2JZ, but it's pushing more HP and has higher displacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99StockGT Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hopefully the 3JZ takes modification as happily as the 2 did, if so paired with modern upgrades this would be a beast. In cars with a AWD system like this how stout are they beyond stock levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Now, how close is the 3JZ to the 2JZ? I know the 2JZ is really an impressive motor, but what can the 3JZ do that the 2JZ does not? Time will tell Engine technology has progressed quite a bit since 1992. I would expect direct injection and cam phasing at least, with possibilities for variable timing and lift and variable geometry turbo's. The MPG concerns will be greater with this than the 2JZ, but it's pushing more HP and has higher displacement. I think I agree with you on this. It seems pretty promising. I have no doubt in my mind VVTi will be utilized and I think the concern for MPGs is probably a good thing... it can only lead to a really efficient head design, and we all know this leads to good numbers on paper as long as the bottom end holds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 This is pretty neat. I hope the hybrid synergy drive equipment is easily delete-able too, but if memory serves me the Prius equipment is pretty integral to the engine/trans right? It would make a lot more sense if they could use individual wheel motors on this, or something more remote from the gas engine itself. In reality the hybrid stuff is probably going to be viewed about like the skip-shift shifters that everyone deletes from their Vettes and GT-500s. It's only on the car to avoid the gas guzzler tax, and is quickly removed by the buyer at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwohio Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's a BRZ STi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'll believe it when I see it. In the mean time who want to buy a stock 95 supra turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 This is pretty neat. I hope the hybrid synergy drive equipment is easily delete-able too, but if memory serves me the Prius equipment is pretty integral to the engine/trans right? It would make a lot more sense if they could use individual wheel motors on this, or something more remote from the gas engine itself. In reality the hybrid stuff is probably going to be viewed about like the skip-shift shifters that everyone deletes from their Vettes and GT-500s. It's only on the car to avoid the gas guzzler tax, and is quickly removed by the buyer at home. It may not be easily delete-able, but it doesn't mean you can't work with or around it. The hybrid drive has no traditional starter, so the electric assist motor cranks the engine on start up, but can also act as a generator. It can drive the wheels directly, or it can provide an assist. Once someone hacks the ECU you'll be able to do what you want. I think this relates well to the "golden age of modding" thread. The tune market will never disappear, but the tools and education of tunes will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I might snap my fingers they're crossed so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99StockGT Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think this relates well to the "golden age of modding" thread. The tune market will never disappear, but the tools and education of tunes will change. Thanks for the tie in, I was thinking the same thing Maybe someone over across the pond is on the same wave length as I am. Very excited to see if this thing truely comes to pass. Could this be the first shot fired in a new Golden Age v2? Honda? Nissan? Return fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 At first i was like :megusta: Then I saw the front... :dumb::lolguy::fuuuu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 ... Once someone hacks the ECU you'll be able to do what you want. for what? ...To get around the emissions laws it will have a system similar to the Prius but this option can be turned off. Essentially it’s an electric motor that can kick in at highway cruising speeds that will increase mpg along with an active aerodynamics system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 wasnt that an april fools joke. not real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 wasnt that an april fools joke. not real. Article date March 31st... not quite April, but still possible. It's all speculation and rumors still. Hardly holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 What does a GT-R go for? I imagine it will be cheaper. And of course it's ugly.. it's a concept still. $93-95k for premium, $100k for black edition. we'll see if the car even gets made. i'm guessing the article is false, or the price will be WAY over $60k. anyone honestly think toyota can build a car with 560hp, and an equal transmission/computer/awd system as the GTR for $60k?? srsly?? nissan is planning a huge redo of the '15GTR. i hope the supra is a reality and beats the GTR, personally. then i can justify getting one. imagine a factory 10 second car, getting one-upped, for $60k?? i don't see it, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 April fools, let me know when there is at least a concept on display at some autoshow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hope it comes to be, but gut says it will end up a scrapped pipe dream or come out with 300hp hybrid bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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