DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Here's a question to stir the pot, was Jordan really that great of a player or was he lucky to play on teams with other great players. Think about some of the players on those bulls teams and how good they really were, Rodman, Pippen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 25 year old Jordan vs 25 year old LeBron. Jordan Cleveland steams LeBron. You have a time machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 You have a time machine? No but I have a brain and a large knowledge of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 No but I have a brain and a large knowledge of the game. I'm not arguing what can't happen, my statement has no relevance to Jordan in HIS prime. He is 50, fat, and out of shape now. The rumor is he could play this year against LeBron. Keep in mind, I'm fucking forty and watched his entire career live. Not saying Jordan is a bum. I watched for a reason. I'm saying 50<28 when it's not a math problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Yes because LeBron is a rookie..... Never said he was, but wisdom never stops accruing. (well, until you die but then we could all agree that Lebron could finally beat Jordan when he's dead. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Here's a question to stir the pot, was Jordan really that great of a player or was he lucky to play on teams with other great players. Think about some of the players on those bulls teams and how good they really were, Rodman, Pippen.... Jordan MADE the team great. LeBron couldn't so he left for a great team. That is the difference IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Jordan MADE the team great. LeBron couldn't so he left for a great team. That is the difference IMO. Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 So you're saying Jordan made Dennis Rodman one of the best rebounders in the history of the game? He made Scottie Pippen one of the greatest defenders ever in the history of the game? Interesting take there....BTW didn't Lebron lead the Cavs to the finals with no where close to the talent the Bulls had during their 2 runs? Jordan retired and the Bulls still went to the 2nd round of the playoffs, Lebron leaves Cleveland and they are getting lottery picks each year since. Oh yeah before you think I am a MJ hater, think again. I just like seeing others opinions on the questions asked. I think the term "greatest of all time" isn't a good term to be used. I feel it should be "greatest of their generation", outside of that it's just a lot of speculation, arguments and stat throwing. I mean hell, who is the greatest NFL QB ever? I'll be over here waiting on that answer haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 You'd be amazed what putting a great player on a team does to everyone else. Talents arise, and people play. It happens all the time, team goes .500 one year Jimmy McAllstar transfer or trades in and bang, stats Go up and the team goes .790. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Isn't this the point of Moneyball; a bunch if mediocre players together build a winning team? Pippen and Grant didnt do anything after MJ left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Isn't this the point of Moneyball; a bunch if mediocre players together build a winning team? Pippen and Grant didnt do anything after MJ left. They made the playoffs (2nd round) after Jordans first retirement. I wouldn't say they didn't do anything after Jordan left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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