The Mosin Nagant

[jjjxlr8]

Any links on how to buy your first one?

 

If you are just looking for a shooter M91/30, make sure the crown doesn't have any damage from cleaning rods, check to make sure the rifling is sharp, and give the trigger a try. I would also pay attention to the position of the front post (how centered it is) and whether or not it lines up with the factory scribe. Bolt operation should be smooth.

 

Most of the refurbs you find at many local retailers will be very good shooters as they have all been inspected and re-worked by an arsenal either in Russia or the Ukraine. Parts that weren't serviceable were already replaced. Headspace will also be in spec.

 

Prices have gone up quite a bit on these in the last year or so. The last one I purchased at a retailer (Dunham's) was on sale for $90. Now, the sale price is $150. You can find them online for less (maybe $120?) but by the time you pay a transfer fee and shipping, you might as well buy it local and be able to inspect them and pick out the one you like. You can sometimes find gems, too, if you know what you are looking for.

 

That last purchase I made for $90 happened to be a very uncommon '42 ex PEM sidemount sniper mixed in with the rest of the regular M91/30s. Izhevsk only produced this version for a short time in '42 before moving to the PU style sniper mount.

 

There are some online vendors, such as J&G Sales, that have the M44 carbines on sale. They seem to be in real nice shape from the photos I've seen of what people have been receiving. The M44 won't be as accurate as the M91/30, though, with the shorter barrel and side mounted bayonet.

 

 

This is THE site for information regarding anything Mosin Nagant... http://7.62x54r.net/

[Ramsey]

If you are just looking for a shooter M91/30, make sure the crown doesn't have any damage from cleaning rods, check to make sure the rifling is sharp, and give the trigger a try. I would also pay attention to the position of the front post (how centered it is) and whether or not it lines up with the factory scribe. Bolt operation should be smooth.

 

Most of the refurbs you find at many local retailers will be very good shooters as they have all been inspected and re-worked by an arsenal either in Russia or the Ukraine. Parts that weren't serviceable were already replaced. Headspace will also be in spec.

 

Prices have gone up quite a bit on these in the last year or so. The last one I purchased at a retailer (Dunham's) was on sale for $90. Now, the sale price is $150. You can find them online for less (maybe $120?) but by the time you pay a transfer fee and shipping, you might as well buy it local and be able to inspect them and pick out the one you like. You can sometimes find gems, too, if you know what you are looking for.

 

That last purchase I made for $90 happened to be a very uncommon '42 ex PEM sidemount sniper mixed in with the rest of the regular M91/30s. Izhevsk only produced this version for a short time in '42 before moving to the PU style sniper mount.

 

There are some online vendors, such as J&G Sales, that have the M44 carbines on sale. They seem to be in real nice shape from the photos I've seen of what people have been receiving. The M44 won't be as accurate as the M91/30, though, with the shorter barrel and side mounted bayonet.

 

 

This is THE site for information regarding anything Mosin Nagant... http://7.62x54r.net/

 

thanks!!!

 

If someone wants to make a couple bucks, im looking to buy a rifle. Looking for a shooter. Willing to drive, have cash.

[jjjxlr8]

Here's a real gem. I wonder how high it's going to go...

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=382734879

[timmy43016]

Here is my sporterized nagant. Stamped 1942. A lot of mods and a lot of fun getting it to this point. Extended the barrel also. Cheap ammo and fun as hell to shoot. Kicks like a mule and doesn't really look like the natant of old so it suits my taste. As previous posters are saying...its not everyones cup of tea. So I made it my cup of tea.

 

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq203/picasso007/photo-6.jpg

[Rustlestiltskin]

Here's my 1944 Finnish M39. Pics aren't that good because they were taken with my phone. Looks amazing in person and the tiger striping in the artic birch stock looks great in daylight. Gotta love the 2 stage triggers in these Finnish M39's.

 

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj288/Dubs740/122CEDDE-1A7F-4AD5-9BE8-752F91EE4A1E-11342-000004C5025F9F0C_zps88f1cebd.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj288/Dubs740/2BD88C11-83D1-4AE0-94A0-1AAD97363241-11342-000004C5323A9F97_zpsbfb186e0.jpg

 

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj288/Dubs740/c3472d54.jpg

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http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj288/Dubs740/b9ea377d.jpg

[jjjxlr8]

Great looking M39.

 

Looks like a post war stock, correct? You can tell if it's a wartime, early postwar, or late postwar by the shape of the fingers in the splice directly in front of the rear sight.

[Rustlestiltskin]

Great looking M39.

 

Looks like a post war stock, correct? You can tell if it's a wartime, early postwar, or late postwar by the shape of the fingers in the splice directly in front of the rear sight.

 

Yes, it's a post war stock. I'll look when I get home to see what actual period it is.

 

thanks!!!

 

If someone wants to make a couple bucks, im looking to buy a rifle. Looking for a shooter. Willing to drive, have cash.

 

SHOOTERS X GRADE Russian 1891/30 7.62x54R Mosin Nagants $79.95

 

Bayonet included

 

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3MOSIN9130X&name=SHOOTERS+X+GRADE+Russian+1891%2f30+7.62x54R+Mosin+Nagants&groupid=6

 

"These Rifles are more for the "Shooter" than the Collector as they may have minor rust, finish wear, light pitting and/or wood has not been refinished by the arsenal . Bayonet included. Bores may be a little dark, but will have strong rifling and will be great shooters."

[gillbot]

I've been keeping my eye out for a cheap carbine, haven't been having much luck. I want a beat up shooter (aka CHEAP) more than a looker so that's my main hangup so far.

[jjjxlr8]

I've been keeping my eye out for a cheap carbine, haven't been having much luck. I want a beat up shooter (aka CHEAP) more than a looker so that's my main hangup so far.

 

You can get Type 53 (the Chinese version of the Russian M44) for $99, right now, from several online retailers. They are rough and original, battlefield pickup condition.

 

http://www.jgsales.com/mosin-nagant-chinese-type-53-rifle,-7.62x54r,-good-condition,-c-r,-used.-p-2341.html

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1089/products_id/411552896/TEAM+BUDS+FAST+TRACK

[gillbot]

You can get Type 53 (the Chinese version of the Russian M44) for $99, right now, from several online retailers. They are rough and original, battlefield pickup condition.

 

http://www.jgsales.com/mosin-nagant-chinese-type-53-rifle,-7.62x54r,-good-condition,-c-r,-used.-p-2341.html

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1089/products_id/411552896/TEAM+BUDS+FAST+TRACK

 

But after FFL and shipping usually, you can get one locally. I'm hoping Dunhams gets them in stock again or I can find a local seller.

[jjjxlr8]

Dunham's won't be getting these Type 53 carbines. Shipping is only $20 and a transfer is only $25 at most places. Mosin Nagant carbines usually sell for $200 and up so your still getting a good deal.

 

Or, get your FFL03 for $30 and buy them directly. That's what I do.

[gillbot]

Dunham's won't be getting these Type 53 carbines. Shipping is only $20 and a transfer is only $25 at most places. Mosin Nagant carbines usually sell for $200 and up so your still getting a good deal.

 

Or, get your FFL03 for $30 and buy them directly. That's what I do.

 

I haven't found a reliable FFL here for under $50 and even those few are sketchy at best. I'm not in Cbus so my options here are limited.

 

I have considered the C&R honestly. Just not sure how it might affect my clearances at work.

[Mojoe]

I need to shoot mine. I have a ton of ammo for it and have never ever fired mine. I did shoot one last year, and did like it. I can really appreciate these old service rifles. Having spent many years carrying a military weapon, I can't imagine how hard it was to work with the weight and reduces capacity. It's pretty humbling.

[gillbot]

I haven't shot my current one yet either. Can't find anywhere around me that will allow it.

[jjjxlr8]

I haven't shot my current one yet either. Can't find anywhere around me that will allow it.

 

Looks like you have a nicely refurbished '42 Izhevsk, complete with the postwar laminate stock. The laminates are stronger than the hardwood stocks and less prone to cracking under the recoil.

[jjjxlr8]

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I have considered the C&R honestly. Just not sure how it might affect my clearances at work.

 

Do you work at a cannabis dispensary?

 

I wouldn't expect any job which involves Federal clearances to be negatively affected by another Federally issued license. ? Of course a Federal background check is part of obtaining it, but it doesn't require fingerprints or photos.

[gillbot]

Do you work at a cannabis dispensary?

 

I wouldn't expect any job which involves Federal clearances to be negatively affected by another Federally issued license. ? Of course a Federal background check is part of obtaining it, but it doesn't require fingerprints or photos.

I do have federal clearances, and yes the FFL can affect them. A simple background check to purchase can affect it hence why i'm not running out to buy.

[Ackbar00]

Still working on my Archangel Stock setup.

 

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae290/ackbar00/IMG_2242_zps8a3d638d.jpg

[KillJoy]

Still working on my Archangel Stock setup.

 

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae290/ackbar00/IMG_2242_zps8a3d638d.jpg

 

IF that Magazine runs well, that would be a slick setup!

 

:thumbup:

 

KillJoy

[Mojoe]

Still working on my Archangel Stock setup.

 

What is needed to still work on? Or what was needed to get to where it is?

[Ackbar00]

Well, When I first got it, I had trouble with the magazines feeding. I thought it was because of my Scope mount.

http://jmeckscopemounts.com/

 

I used my dremel and at the time, still didn't work. So I took it off and still had feeding issues. Later, it appears that the magazines just were not fully seating properly, you really had to slap them in. Once I did that, all the magazines started to feed properly. So, I am wondering if the scope mount was not the issue, but the magazines not being seated properly. So I am debating pulling it back apart and trying it again, or just getting a different mount. Either way, I want to get a bent bolt in it. Will prolly work on it in the spring when I get a few extra bucks.

[Mojoe]

I like the project and have been considering doing on. I want one for a shooter and one to leave original and in as best condition as I can find/willing to put $ toward. The one I have now is ok, but probably be the one I shoot.

[Ramsey]

Well, When I first got it, I had trouble with the magazines feeding. I thought it was because of my Scope mount.

http://jmeckscopemounts.com/

 

I used my dremel and at the time, still didn't work. So I took it off and still had feeding issues. Later, it appears that the magazines just were not fully seating properly, you really had to slap them in. Once I did that, all the magazines started to feed properly. So, I am wondering if the scope mount was not the issue, but the magazines not being seated properly. So I am debating pulling it back apart and trying it again, or just getting a different mount. Either way, I want to get a bent bolt in it. Will prolly work on it in the spring when I get a few extra bucks.

 

I saw the early gen magazines needed reheated and molded wider in the center.

[jjjxlr8]

I've been keeping my eye out for a cheap carbine, haven't been having much luck. I want a beat up shooter (aka CHEAP) more than a looker so that's my main hangup so far.

 

 

I might have an extra M44 that I'd sell. I don't have any $99 "beaters" like the Type 53s that are currently on the market, though.

 

I've got a Romanian M44 that is much less common than the Russian version. It's all stamped matching and has the correct Romanian marked parts, barrel bands, trigger housing, etc. I also have a Russian M44 that's the typical refurb, completely gone through and re-worked by a Russian arsenal. I'll try to post some photos tomorrow afternoon...

[jjjxlr8]

Here's the Romanian M44. I love the dark wood on this one and the honest finish wear.

 

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/IMG_7037_zps921d5984.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/IMG_7036_zpse16f678a.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/IMG_7038_zps9dbf4a65.jpg

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http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/IMG_7040_zps022e3ebd.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/IMG_7041_zps655733c6.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/FinishWear_zpsd81f8fbc.jpg