Snowflake Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 My little brother is looking at a clean one owner 94 Jaguar XJS with 93k. Please give me a good reason to tell him so not to waste 3k on it. He said it has 4.0 if they had different motors" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 4.0l is the six cyl, not the v12. It's like the British small block chevy. Less problematic than the v12. Is it coupe or convertible? If it is a coupe it's a meh price, a vert the price is very good. 93k is at the cusp of when things start to go wrong with those cars. If you look at values cars with 50k on the clock are still $10k, but over 100k miles and you can find them for $2k all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Pre-96 Jags are Lucas electronics...electrical problems from the factory. I would highly, HIGHLY recommend the post 1996 Ford-controlled Jaguar XJ's (body code X308) if you were going to get a Jag sedan at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Clay, he's taking about the grand tourer not the sedan, the ford jag functional equalivent would be the xk8. Lucas by the 1990s was not Lucas of the old 1960s, but the reputational damage was already done. I will say there are an inordinate amount of things that are unnecessarily electronically controlled (like the inside the dash vents) and prone to breakage and expensive repair. I can't speak to jag wiring but landie wiring from the same era is a rats nest of individual wires, I hear the jags are the same but don't know for sure. 1994-1996 are supposed to be the best of the XJS series with individual coil packs and the last evolution of the inline 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's late and I'm fucking tired. Take it from me: he shouldn't buy the car anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well if he wants to dump about 2000+ into it after the initial purchase and he knows then I'm all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammit Charlie Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Jag+LS swap= problems solved. Otherwise run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 XJS is probably the worst body style ever created by jaguar. They are so hideous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 4.0l is the six cyl, not the v12. It's like the British small block chevy. Less problematic than the v12. Is it coupe or convertible? If it is a coupe it's a meh price, a vert the price is very good. 93k is at the cusp of when things start to go wrong with those cars. If you look at values cars with 50k on the clock are still $10k, but over 100k miles and you can find them for $2k all day long. Yeah it's not a vert. I shall let him see these posts so he can't argue with me about it... Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Jag+LS swap= problems solved. Otherwise run! I know of a certain XJS with SBC and turbocharged that ran 276+mph at boneville salt flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 if it was a V12 and $2K I would say pull the trigger since the v12 XJS's use 4L80E Chevy transmissions after 1992 and swapping a chevy in there is as easy installing engine mounts and a radiator. Remember though, Jaguar mechanicals are not unreliable, their electrics are the issue. Usually when people swap chevys in, they get rid of the electronic fuel pump, and the fuel injection in favor of a carb (or stock GM FI) which cures a lot of the poor running issues. In my mind the only reason to own an XJS is to own a jaguar convertible GT car, preferably in British racing green with a Connolly leather interior, with a direct link to the e-type for the cost of a used 1989 honda civic. It would make a great toy. I'd like to pretend I wouldn't daily drive one but I can't, but then again I have a threshold for pain in a car that surpasses most, plus a back up car - but for most people I wouldn't recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I let my brother know wasn't a good idea and like I thought he won't listen. He offered the woman 1500 and she said not interested...lol I bet he buys it and at her asking price....kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/lgsquKg.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 he could get lucky and have very few issues with the car---but why?? is he looking for a project? reliable transportation? those cars aren't even really cool. so many better selections can be had with $3k that will be reliable. as others have stated, i would plan on having $2k or more set aside for repairs, along with an unlimited supply of booze, advil, and a small hammer to bash himself over the head periodically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's *probably* a really stupid idea, but... http://steronz.com/random/xjs_small.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's *probably* a really stupid idea, but... http://steronz.com/random/xjs_small.jpg No, a stupid idea is getting drunk and trying to talk to a cop in front of the bar, this is a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 he could get lucky and have very few issues with the car---but why?? is he looking for a project? reliable transportation? those cars aren't even really cool. so many better selections can be had with $3k that will be reliable. as others have stated, i would plan on having $2k or more set aside for repairs, along with an unlimited supply of booze, advil, and a small hammer to bash himself over the head periodically. I wish I could get into his head. He has a couple nice daily drivers but he did mention wanting something to put in the garage and drive every once and a while. Why a crap Jag? Who knows....he's half Iranian so maybe it's his Persion side coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 FWIW, jag interiors are pretty nice places to be if the car isn't running and you aren't having to monitor gauges and stuff. If you are an old jaguar-ophile it's about the cheapest way to get the old tech: the inline 6 they made since jesus could drive, the independent rear suspension, the parts bin E-type sharing of the 1970's cars. My father's cousin phil had a 1976 XJS that belonged to John Glen and it had an LS6 454 swapped in to it by GM jag in the late 70's. The car drove great and I drove it more than a few times, felt tight, and was super comfy. It also handled pretty well. I mean it wasn't a sports car but it is way better than a honda accord, toyota camary, etc....If he is not into old jaguars, then I don't know what to say unless he has a fetish to dress like and drive the car of a 1980's coke dealer (in which case he should buy a 911 targa, preferably a slant nose). To have one as a toy it's not a bad car but you want to be choosy about what maximizes the fun. V12= fun. Convertible = fun. Unmuffled hopped up inline 6 = fun. Lister Jag = fun, BRG = requirement. A 1994 coupe with a 6 is a nice driver but nothing to write home about. If he gets it for $2K he'll probably be able to sell it on for that as values are pretty stable. He'll probably lose just as much fixing stupid things like the climate control. for all the things that jags are quirky and have character for this is the least quirky car so it may not be anything good. I will say this - if the car has a spec of rust on it run the opposite direction. These cars are rust traps. whatever you see on the surface is 4 times worse where you can't see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robochan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Every $3k jag has $3k deferred maintenance. Get a PPI and he will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Does seem like an odd "toy" car. If he has "lame" DDs like Corollas and shit, I guess it may be different. Plus, whatever the case a hardtop 6cy. Jag just doesnt sound like a toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossle Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Have a PPI done. They can be pretty good, but they can get real ugly really fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 There is always this to fall back on: http://jagsthatrun.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 If he's gonna do it, do it TG Style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I had a 02 X-type years ago. Loved the car until it needed work. It seemed that once something electronic quit working, everything electronic quit working (mind you this car was well within the Ford era). I love Jaguars, but I will likely never own another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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