greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Yeah, the Republicans were actually pretty clever in realizing that nobody really cares about deficits, and they can borrow an extra half a trillion dollars to pump into the economy right before an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-02/u-s-payrolls-rise-above-forecast-250-000-as-wage-gains-hit-3-1?srnd=premium Lookin' good for Trump and folks aligned to him on Tuesday... Sort term yes, but for every peak there is a valley. I just hope that the GOP isn't keeping this gravy train rolling and not scaling back for short term gains and then we see a crash in the future. Normally, a fiscally cautious approach to this kind of prosperity requires some measure of reigning in so when the economy shifts again the free fall isn't tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Tim, if George Soros agreed to take in every single one of these refugees and agree to pay any and all costs associated with their stay *for life* in exchange for the US granting immediate citizenship, would you be cool with that? Nope. There's far more to it than the $$. Just ask anyone who works with someone not pulling their weight due to lack of skills or willingness to do so or many other related reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 George Soros is paying for their one way ticket here then flipping the bill to us once they get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Nope. There's far more to it than the $$. Just ask anyone who works with someone not pulling their weight due to lack of skills or willingness to do so or many other related reasons. So they're lazy, unskilled, and unwilling to work? What are you basing this characterization on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 George Soros is paying for their one way ticket here then flipping the bill to us once they get here. You're repeating more white nationalist propaganda. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/no-evidence-soros-is-funding-immigrant-caravan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 So they're lazy, unskilled, and unwilling to work? What are you basing this characterization on? If you had a business, would you: 1) Hire the first 100 people that knocked on your door, hoping that some of them have skills, aren't creeps, etc. 2) Would you look at their applications, then interview and eventually hire the right candidate(s)? I bet you'd go with option 2, because option 1 is a disaster and you're setting yourself up for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 You're repeating more white nationalist propaganda. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/no-evidence-soros-is-funding-immigrant-caravan/ Don't feed the Nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 If you had a business, would you: 1) Hire the first 100 people that knocked on your door, hoping that some of them have skills, aren't creeps, etc. 2) Would you look at their applications, then interview and eventually hire the right candidate(s)? I bet you'd go with option 2, because option 1 is a disaster and you're setting yourself up for failure. Pointless non sequitur. That's not the situation we're in, nor is it the hypothetical I proposed to Tim where he has to pay nothing out of pocket and still refuses to share "his" country with them for reasons that I'm sure totally aren't based on xenophobia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BStowers023 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Pointless non sequitur. That's not the situation we're in, nor is it the hypothetical I proposed to Tim where he has to pay nothing out of pocket and still refuses to share "his" country with them for reasons that I'm sure totally aren't based on xenophobia. Is Soros going to have a limitless fund for the immigrants children and grandchildren and so on? Or is this just a one generation thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Is Soros going to have a limitless fund for the immigrants children and grandchildren and so on? Or is this just a one generation thing? My grandparents were literally immigrants who came to this country with nothing... What reasons do you have for thinking that these folks are going to be a generational burden on society that totally aren't based on xenophobia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 So they're lazy, unskilled, and unwilling to work? What are you basing this characterization on? You tell me, you put those words out there not me. I simply answered your question earlier. All of that would have to be evaluated but I think it's pretty safe to make some assumptions here. I wouldn't say lazy either. Will encompasses much more than just willingness to put in effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 You tell me, you put those words out there not me. I simply answered your question earlier. All of that would have to be evaluated but I think it's pretty safe to make some assumptions here. I wouldn't say lazy either. Will encompasses much more than just willingness to put in effort. Fine, I'll retract the words I injected into the discussion. You characterize these immigrants as "not pulling their weight due to lack of skills or willingness to do so." What are you basing that on? What makes these [potential] immigrants different from all the other immigrants who came here with nothing and have gone on to make this country great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Pointless non sequitur. That's not the situation we're in, nor is it the hypothetical I proposed to Tim where he has to pay nothing out of pocket and still refuses to share "his" country with them for reasons that I'm sure totally aren't based on xenophobia. and I made my point that there's more to this equation than money and I gave you a real-world example of it that you and I have likely faced at work. The job analogy is pretty spot-on as we collectively as a country do need to do a far better job evaluating qualifications. We already know simply taking an asylum claim and letting them walk around our country is a bad and quite dumb thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Fine, I'll retract the words I injected into the discussion. You characterize these immigrants as "not pulling their weight due to lack of skills or willingness to do so." What are you basing that on? What makes these [potential] immigrants different from all the other immigrants who came here with nothing and have gone on to make this country great? I'm saying park their asses in a tent city and work through our existing processes in place. Either they qualify for asylum or they don't. Many don't / won't and will end up going back. Others who are applying legally for entry, I'm cool with. Let them wait it out as the process dictates. We need to limit the entries as there's a cost to doing so and we can't afford to be the crazy cat lady. What makes them different is they are basically insisting that they come in and be turned loose without following our rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 We already know simply taking an asylum claim and letting them walk around our country is a bad and quite dumb thing to do. Lol OK. Nice tautological argument. "We can't take in asylum seekers because we already know it's bad to take in asylum seekers." Can't argue with that stellar logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 What makes them different is they are basically insisting that they come in and be turned loose without following our rules. Cite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 My grandparents were literally immigrants who came to this country with nothing... What reasons do you have for thinking that these folks are going to be a generational burden on society that totally aren't based on xenophobia? it's their job to follow the process like my grand parents and I'm assuming yours too. Mine came through Ellis Island and followed the rules. They didn't simply walk in with demands or expectations of being allowed to roam free from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 it's their job to follow the process like my grand parents and I'm assuming yours too. Mine came through Ellis Island and followed the rules. They didn't simply walk in with demands or expectations of being allowed to roam free from day one. Cite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Cite? don't play stupid. you know catch and release was Obama's favorite game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 don't play stupid. you know catch and release was Obama's favorite game. Isn't that following the rules though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Cite? watch the news. just about every station has interviewed them. I saw on CNN just last night 3 stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 I honestly have no clue what you're talking about, I'm not aware of any demands they're making to circumvent US law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 watch the news. just about every station has interviewed them. I saw on CNN just last night 3 stories. Here's the US law on asylum. What part are they trying to circumvent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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