owndjoo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 it's common tactical sense. a group of people bust in to rob a bank. if they intend to use lethal force on armed guards, more than likely they are going to use the same on anyone else that they see with a gun. remember, people usually think that a person with an open carry is usually a cop, either plain clothes or off duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) that's smart, you just shot a plain clothes officer....concealing allows for you to assess the situation before you draw/show your weapon. and ok, maybe they don't "bust" in, but there are still bank robberings involving multiple armed men taking hostages. Remember the shootouts out west??not to mention if there is ever a terrorist situation that you are caught in the middle of.... There are so many crazy people out there that you can't expect anyone to act any certain way. look at what happened at Ft. Hood. There are many cases in which people have just walked in and shot people for no apparent reason. Who gets targeted first? Perceived threats. Edited November 23, 2009 by owndjoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreator Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 What? How can you relate the situation at Fort Hood to open carry when carrying guns isn't even allowed on a military base? I don't follow your example... Man, you sure talk some big shit for someone who just shot a plain clothes pilice officer at a bank robbering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreator Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Oh, AND that plice officer just got back from Iraq where he served two years AND he was with child.. Man, you are something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 the plain clothes officer situation isn't just a bank. if you just shoot someone who has a gun pulled you are breaking the law. unless the weapon is pointed at you or you know exactly what the situation is, you cannot fire on someone. ft. hood is used as an example of crazy people and their unpredictability, just like school shootings, and the incidents of random shootings around the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I shot a squirrel the other day cuz he had his nutz pointed at me. I wasnt going to hesitate. I fooked him up!! Ate him too. nomnomnom nom nom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 there are real world examples of people busting/driving into buildings and opening fire on strangers. look it up. I've seen multiple reports before. One such that comes to mind the assailant was killed by a man with a concealed gun. Now had a person been carrying openly in that situation things may or may not have ended differently. I agree that a smart criminal would be deterred by the sight of a weapon, however it is the mentally unstable/extremely desperate that no one can predict how they will act. Yes, the situations I speak of are extremely rare, however it only takes one incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 there are real world examples of people busting/driving into buildings and opening fire on strangers. look it up. I've seen multiple reports before. One such that comes to mind the assailant was killed by a man with a concealed gun. Now had a person been carrying openly in that situation things may or may not have ended differently.So you don't know if open or concealed would have made a difference? For all you know open carry could have acted as a deterrent if that had been the case and no one would have gotten shot... I agree that a smart criminal would be deterred by the sight of a weapon,so you agree open carry is better in this situation then? however it is the mentally unstable/extremely desperate that no one can predict how they will act.So you admit in this case you can't tell if conceal or open makes any difference because they are unpredictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 i admit that in a situation in which open carry deters it is good. however if it only makes you a target then it is bad. there are good and bad parts of both. However in the public situation I prefer to remain unknown unless i need to use my weapon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I shot a squirrel the other day cuz he had his nutz pointed at me. I wasnt going to hesitate. I fooked him up!! Ate him too. nomnomnom nom nomIm calling BS.. you could never shoot something as furry as you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hey....take the concealed carry/open carry discussion to a new fucking thread, will ya?Jesus Christ, you fuckers argue like a bunch of women..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 i have the the M&P 15T and love it. i know you can pick one up for around 1,400 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hey' date=' Kettle... how you doin'? Yeah, we jacked your shit. Whatcha' gonna' do.. shoot us??!!??!![/quote']I would, but I haven't found an AR to buy yet.Well, I found one a local Shop, but the gubmint says my purchase has been "delayed"."Justice delayed is justice denied"Where's Al notsoSharpton when you need him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 OMG THE WHOLE WORLD IS OUT TO GET ME! EVERYONE HAS AN AGENDA THAT INVOLVES ME BEING PLOTTED AGAINST!!!!on another note, did you decide on a gun show to head to or still scouring the classifieds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 OMG THE WHOLE WORLD IS OUT TO GET ME! EVERYONE HAS AN AGENDA THAT INVOLVES ME BEING PLOTTED AGAINST!!!!on another note, did you decide on a gun show to head to or still scouring the classifieds?huh? What?Did you read my post? I found one, with some extras, for a decent price at a local shop, but the Government said my purchase has been "delayed". Not denied, mind you, just delayed.WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 huh? What?Did you read my post? I found one, with some extras, for a decent price at a local shop, but the Government said my purchase has been "delayed". Not denied, mind you, just delayed.WTF?It's probably because you're red flagged.... you're welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Columbus Gun Show at the Vets Memorial is this coming weekend, Nov. 28-29. I plan on hitting it up. Trying to find a Sig 522 on the cheap.http://www.columbusgunshow.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 It's probably because you're red flagged.... you're welcome Obviously, I'm on the "further review" list.Still a bunch of bullshit if you ask me though.Columbus Gun Show at the Vets Memorial is this coming weekend, Nov. 28-29. I plan on hitting it up. Trying to find a Sig 522 on the cheap.http://www.columbusgunshow.com/Supposedly there's a show in Akron the following weekend. I may try to make it out to that. C-Bus is a bit of a hoof from up here, and I'm a bit lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Columbus Gun Show at the Vets Memorial is this coming weekend, Nov. 28-29. I plan on hitting it up. Trying to find a Sig 522 on the cheap.http://www.columbusgunshow.com/i'm plannin on goin there too. tryin to sell this Mauser c96 pistol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 i'm probably gonna drop by there. thinking about selling my Sig P229 .40swas far as AR's go, I'd suggest definitely look into having one built for you by a good armorer. i'm sure ar15 forums have a good selection of people who will build one for you. the nice thing about having one built is that the armorer will know from experience what part to deburr where, and do function tests while they build. at least mine did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 as far as AR's go, I'd suggest definitely look into having one built for you by a good armorer. i'm sure ar15 forums have a good selection of people who will build one for you. the nice thing about having one built is that the armorer will know from experience what part to deburr where, and do function tests while they build. at least mine did.Thats basically what I did with the AR that I found.A shop not far from me built both my 45's (back in the day). He's now been building AR's too.Of course, I don't have it just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 i'm probably gonna drop by there. thinking about selling my Sig P229 .40swI may be interested depending on which 229 it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 i'm probably gonna drop by there. thinking about selling my Sig P229 .40swI'd be interested in having a look at that too.How much do you want for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I found one, with some extras, for a decent price at a local shop, but the Government said my purchase has been "delayed". Not denied, mind you, just delayed.WTF?Were you given a reason for the "delay"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Were you given a reason for the "delay"?You see the government (read Obama and Czars) keeps tabs on the internet forums. With all of Todd's conservative posts, they have red flagged him as a threat to their socialist agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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