Casper Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Utah: http://www.darkreading.com/database_security/security/attacks/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223100233Florida: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/071310-gas-station-card-scam.html?hpg1=bn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Attaching skimmers to the outside of the card readers has been done for a few years now. The fact that they are now showing up INSIDE the pump is scary as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Attaching skimmers to the outside of the card readers has been done for a few years now. The fact that they are now showing up INSIDE the pump is scary as hell.some brands of pumps arent hard to get into at all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 who the fuck is working at the store and not see this take place??? those are the fucking idiots that should reimburse anyone that gets their info stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) well if its not a 24hr station it could happen off hours. and if that happens alot of staions dont have a very good security camera system since they are pretty expensive... on that note CONTACT DETTY INSTALLATIONS FOR ALL YOU SECURITY NEEDS!!! Edited July 15, 2010 by kawi kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CattaniAFJ Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 LoL.. yeah' date=' because at $7.50/hour I give a fuck about your credit card information.[/quote']ZING! ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 well if its not a 24hr station it could happen off hours.isn't your family's station only open during the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 isn't your family's station only open during the day? only for cash.... cards can be used 24 hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 only for cash.... cards can be used 24 hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Theft of data can be done at the pump without even doing that. The card scanner signal leaks so badly, that electronic snooping gear in the van next to you can hear it, burn a card to match, and buy gas immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Theft of data can be done at the pump without even doing that. The card scanner signal leaks so badly, that electronic snooping gear in the van next to you can hear it, burn a card to match, and buy gas immediately. when ever you post it makes me want to go buy a tin foil hat and sit in my basement never to leave again.......... thanks buddy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hue jass Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 when ever you post it makes me want to go buy a tin foil hat and sit in my basement never to leave again.......... thanks buddy!!!+1:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 its the truth!!!!! tom should have written Revelations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 its the truth!!!!! tom should have written Revelations!he's seen too many movies. how many times have the person at the register have trouble getting your card to work directly with the damn scanner? like a device is going to really work from a few feet away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Attaching skimmers to the outside of the card readers has been done for a few years now. The fact that they are now showing up INSIDE the pump is scary as hell.This is why I switched to using a "credit" card for everything instead of our "debit" card. Credit card offers protection, someone gets your debit card info they can empty your bank accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Remote reading a card scanner isn't easy. Skimming with an extra reader and blue tooth connection is super easy. So they do the easy. The credit card offers the protection, but I'm not sure if the debit cards are even targets. I'm thinking that it is the credit cards that are targets. More money usually available on credit than debit, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 when ever you post it makes me want to go buy a tin foil hat and sit in my basement never to leave again.......... thanks buddy!!!+1:lol:+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 ...I'm not sure if the debit cards are even targets. I'm thinking that it is the credit cards that are targets. More money usually available on credit than debit, I suppose.I think its just the opposite. A person might have a $1000 credit limit on their Visa or MC but their Bank Debit card can be tied to a checking and/or savings account with much more money in them than $1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) It is true that banks do not secure debit cards like they do credit cards.Both still depend on reporting the error and making a claim.Credit cards are limited to $50 loss, if notified within 60 days.Debit cards are limited to $50 loss, if notified within 2 days.Debit cards are limited to $500 loss, if notified between 2 and 60 days.Debit cards are wide open only if not reported within 60 days, and credit cards are the same.A limit can be set on debit cards, just like credit cards.I get the impression very few banks or people do that.Also, some banks are way better at noticing and asking about transactions.Make sure they have your current cell phone number so they can contact you.At this point it's probably not making much of a difference, whether your debit or your credit card is scanned. The card transactions are currently about half credit and half debit, and increasing on the use of the debit cards. Mostly because it's cheaper for retailers if we use the debit, and retailers are pushing us that way. The PIN number is an additional safety measure, but not for long when attacked by technology. Neither can be used on-line without more information.Unfortunately, the answer is to spend cash or checks. That combined with not using your cards as often, or along freeways, or in questionable places.Also, I've noticed that in Florida, they always ask for identification to confirm the signature on your card. I suspect retails in Ohio are supposed to do that also, but skip it.edit: oh, and snooping gear hidden in a van is old hat, and too hard for the average thief to set up and use. Don't worry about that, for a while... Current methods are way too easy, till those pumps get locked down better.edit2: I just thought of those prepaid cards. I suppose that's the banking industry's lazy answer for the problems. Edited July 17, 2010 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 who doesn't use their debit card as a real credit card? that's the whole idea of them.I see the scanners always ask what kind of card it is I ALWAYS select credit. the last time I selected debit it was declined. so I never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 edit2: I just thought of those prepaid cards. I suppose that's the banking industry's lazy answer for the problems.Thats not a bad idea. Just keep putting more on a prepaid. I already use a Speedway prepaid card for my gas cause I get a extra discount on top of my speedyrewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 pay for gas with loose change..it's the only safe way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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