cg2112 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Come on cg2112, what's you're comeback? Still think he's not anti-gun?I asked a specific question. What has the Obama Administration done to restrict gun rights? That question has still gone unanswered. I didn't ask what the President himself believes, or what people think he perhaps might perchance maybe possibly do. The suggestion was made that in terms of gun control, Mitt Romney would be a better choice than Barack Obama. So, to determine whether or not this is true, I'd like to know what it is that the Obama Administration has done to curtail gun rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) I asked a specific question. What has the Obama Administration done to restrict gun rights? That question has still gone unanswered. I didn't ask what the President himself believes, or what people think he perhaps might perchance maybe possibly do. The suggestion was made that in terms of gun control, Mitt Romney would be a better choice than Barack Obama. So, to determine whether or not this is true, I'd like to know what it is that the Obama Administration has done to curtail gun rights.Your question was what has he tried to to, not what he has done. Post #4. What has the Obama Administration done to try to harm gun ownership rights?Your first post in the thread, btw. Him supporting the gun treaty is trying to restrict gun rights. Edited February 5, 2012 by chevysoldier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I stated I don't support.Romney. But here is a link to prove my point. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/07/07/obama-unveil-gun-control-reforms_n_892633.htmlAlso backing the in gun treaty is another reason I think the way I do. http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/26/democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treatyI give facts but they are ignored? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I give facts but they are ignored?The first link is says that the Obama Administration will unveil reforms. It doesn't say what those reforms are, but does suggest that they will involve enforcement of laws that are already on the books.The second link talks about what Congress might do. It calls the treaty "Obama backed," but that's not accurate - the President has no power or control over international treaties. He may think one is a good idea, or another is a bad idea, but this is a specific power of Congress, the Obama Administration has no Constitutional ability to make a treaty with another nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Backing gun control treaties that will effect the people of this nation is doing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod38um Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/7322-former-un-ambassador-obama-will-target-gun-ownership-in-second-termAmbassador Bolton:We can understand that, as he likes to say, he’s playing the long game, and that "leading from behind" means waiting until he’s elected to a second term when he faces no further political constraints and his true agenda can come to the floor. And I believe right at the top of it is [to] increase gun control at the federal level and at the international level.________________________________________________________________http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/nra-claims-massive-obama-conspiracy-not-to-ban-guns/“But it’s a big fat stinking lie!” the NRA leader exclaimed. “It’s all part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and destroy the Second Amendment in our country.”“Obama himself is no fool. So when he got elected, they concocted a scheme to stay away from the gun issue, lull gun owners to sleep and play us for fools in 2012. Well, gun owners are not fools and we are not fooled,” La Pierre declared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 No way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Backing gun control treaties that will effect the people of this nation is doing something.Never mind. They're watching. Edited February 7, 2012 by C-bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Backing gun control treaties that will effect the people of this nation is doing something.Doing what, though?Which parts of the treaty do you find objectionable? Which parts of the treaty will affect the people of this nation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Let me be the first to welcome the Blue Helmets when they begin helping the US enforce small-arms treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 That's kind of what I figured.There is no treaty as of yet. There is nothing to find objectionable, because there is, quite literally, no treaty. Just an agreement to meet this summer to discuss a treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 That's right. Nothing to see here. Just a scheduled meeting to discuss restriction of gun rights. No actual restrictions' date=' though. We'll deal with that after it happens.. because we're all dumb and like to do shit the hard way.[/quote']There is no meeting scheduled to discuss restriction of gun rights. But as long as we aren't jumping to conclusion without having any facts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Is there an agreement to schedule a meeting with the UN?Yes, there is. To discuss a firearms treaty. Thus far, there has been nothing (aside from speculation from the right) that indicates that this would be a treaty that infringes on our 2nd Amendment rights. In fact, the resolution passed to have this meeting recognizes the right of all nations to their own firearm policies inside their own borders. Beyond speculation, there is really nothing to indicate that such a treaty would impact our rights as Americans. It might impact your ability to sell a firearm to some guy in Libya, but that's hardly a right, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Maybe I got this wrong from my HS US history class (I got some really good sleep in there) but I thought the prez signed treaties and the Senate ratified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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