ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 So wait, I can't just post random stuff? I mean I was hoping for way more in this thread today and it did not deliver. I ended up having to take a 2 hr nap at work because I couldn't read anything fun.I expected a lot better. I actualyl thought this was an interesting topic myself.ok ok, random appearance of random people doing random things randomly allowed.But only randomly...edit: and.... wait for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I personally know 2 ex-miltary that want nothing to do with any firearms... how would you enforce such a mandate anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolWhip Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Works great for Israel actually. You should look at their violent crime statistics among citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Vermont is attempting to pass this type of legislation. It allows for petition to exempt, at a minimum cost. Should some one not wish to comply. Yes, a small penalty. Not much different than conscientious objector, but with a fine.edit: enforcement isn't an issue with good citizens of honor, which most ex-military already are. Edited December 18, 2012 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Whining, crying, and sheep bleating not allowed in this thread.Delusions of fantasy worlds of rainbows and unicorns also excluded.Discussion is technically of interest only to ex-military personnel.lol. I'm still AD and will be for awhile. I have some interest in this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 lol. I'm still AD and will be for awhile. I have some interest in this subject.My mistake. Ex-military and current military. Even other military, what the heck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 So does this get expanded to American active military, retired, discharged (honorable), guard, reserve and militia should all have personal military firearms at home?It's the American Army. I say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Do you desire the military member to buy the rifle they used while serving? A new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Do you desire the military member to buy the rifle they used while serving? A new one?Flexible. Needs to use common ammunition. Be functional. Operator needs to be proficient with safe use. Government can issue if need be in hardship cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 There's more to this. But what would that be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I give up. No one is biting. The requirement for an "American Army" of ordinary citizens already exists in both Federal law and State law. It's permanent, survived challenges, and has been modified to make it stronger. Yes, it says you should own a weapon and ammunition if you can afford to do so.It is what it is.The largest army in the world. The American public. Nothing even comes close.It's who we are, even if some don't like it. It is freedom. Forever.Don't change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Switzerland has always impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Switzerland has always impressed.They can yodel like crazy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The Swiss make damn good cheese, watches, knives and guns too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The Swiss make damn good cheese, watches, knives and guns too.And women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownsfan1 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 ^^^+1:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I give up. No one is biting. The requirement for an "American Army" of ordinary citizens already exists in both Federal law and State law. It's permanent, survived challenges, and has been modified to make it stronger. Yes, it says you should own a weapon and ammunition if you can afford to do so.where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 where?That wasn't real specific, but I get the idea.But I'm going to reverse it, and ask:name one state or federal set of documents of law that does not mention it.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 That wasn't real specific, but I get the idea.But I'm going to reverse it, and ask:name one state or federal set of documents of law that does not mention it.Good luck.I want to know where the law says anyone outside of law enforcement is required to own or to carry any firearm of any kind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I want to know where the law says anyone outside of law enforcement is required to own or to carry any firearm of any kind...And I want you to figure it out for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 And I want you to figure it out for yourself.I want you to find a teapot swirling around the sun somewhere between the orbits of mars and jupiter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I want you to find a teapot swirling around the sun somewhere between the orbits of mars and jupiter...Are you sure it's not closer to Uranus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Are you sure it's not closer to Uranus?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I want you to find a teapot swirling around the sun somewhere between the orbits of mars and jupiter...LOL! The probabilities of one being there is probably pretty high.Odds of finding it...not so much.edit: The realities are, quoting US law isn't realistic sometimes, unless there is a fair understanding of that law.What I've been reading is scattered throughout most of all US law including Supreme Court decisions.Hint: In part, it's also the reason that the draft(conscription) during the Vietnam War was found to be legal when challenged. Edited December 19, 2012 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 LOL! The probabilities of one being there is probably pretty high.Odds of finding it...not so much.and therein lies our differences of thinking. My opinion is that the odds are quite low, in fact, as near zero as I can imagine. However, I cannot prove to you that it isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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