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To be 100% honest i don't personal believe in mandatory training. I'm a big personal accountability, personal responsibility guy. That being said if I am selling something I want to make sure people are getting their money's worth. Especially something this important. I would actually prefer to do a two day 16 hour class. We feel we have that much information we want to share. Sadly people complain about the 12 hours, and I don't think many people would do a 16 hour class with a "nobody" like me. Speaking to the person who didn't get much from their ccw class... Sadly that is the story I have heard from a lot of people (myself included). You have to look at like this though. We have to teach a course to the lowest common denominator. That way those people who didn't have the fortune of growing up shooting up can have a good base. The CCW course really is just that. A good baseline. It's for people who can't spell "gun" as say for those who take our class. At least 4-5 hours is. Then we go into practical application of the fundamentals of marksmanship, and CCw specific topics (which I think are hugely important hence why we won't cut to 8 hours). Most CCw courses are not going to be sufficent to teach you how to survive with a gun. I STRONGLY urge you to seek additional advanced training for this. Just be able to carry a gun isn't going to make you better able to protect yourself than owning a guitar makes you a musician. To further harp on the baseline training... I have taken probably 200 hours of additional training on the last two years, and I can say nothing is more frustrating than taking an "advanced" class that you have paid $200-600 for + ammo, + gas, + hotel, and have someone derailing the class due to lack of a good baseline. Sorry for the extended rant. Go out, get good quality training from good quality instructors. Being in OH we are very lucky to have a ton of really great ones. Also sorry if this is jarrbled. I'm posting from a phone. Be safe, Howard

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i was tired, much moonshine was consumed the eve prior.

We have a 12 hour class scheduled for 1/28 in Johnstown. I don't think we will be cutting back to 8 hours even with the law change. I feel that would be doing a disservice to our customers. Pm me if you have any interest or need more information. Howard

The dress was only designed to hit the floor once, the leathers multiple times. Hence the $ difference

Are you serious?