I kinda want to laugh, but I feel sad after reading the last few pages of this thread... are you guys really trying to convince magley to change his opinion?
If they'd used a taser or a beanbag gun, the guy still could've died. And those are considered non-lethal. What in the world do you people suggest that the cops do? Ask nicely for people to lay down on the ground so they can be arrested? We know how well THAT works.
Congrats Ben. But you know it would be a great story having a kid in the middle of a motorcycle trip. There's plenty of Internet experts on here that could play mid wife.