I'm around that area all the time. Used to live down the street from it. About two years or so ago, I saw four guys just hanging out in the middle of Shrock Rd. When a lady honked at them so she could turn onto Karl, two of the guys started kicking her car, denting it the f#*k up as she drove by. I still have friends in that area and don't go visit without my "girlfriend". It's sad because that used to be one of the nicer areas of town years ago.