I cant speak for ross but I didnt have you top of mind when I posted mine ... And Ive not mean mugged you I even talked to you and your girl 2 thurs ago Im not "calling" anyone out , when I do that I will name names Im not shy but to clear it up so no one gets offended or thinks I was making threats I said talk to me in person because it does not need to become another coshocton bashing thread to scare people away from riding with us . do we ride fast , somtimes do we take risks , somtimes but do we help new riders and keep an eye on them and better them ? everytime ! We always offer to help a new rider learn , adjust the pace accordingly and take time to stop and talk ,tell em what theyre doing wrong and help them correct it so it didnt need to become another stay away from us thread thats all I ment Mr A will attest to the help we give he graduated top of class saturday , sorry 2 went down but we did everything we could to prevent it pace was fairly slow and ross and I had a 15 minute talk with everyone before we even hit the road . I agree. I have only been riding for less than 2 months. No previous motorcycle exp at all. I even went on the fast loop afterwards. 1000rr and everyone helped me out on my cornering. We were going at a great speed for beginners and we were told to go at our own pace. 1000rr even waved for people to slow down around that corner. Once again if you were not there then don't talk crap about these guys.