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Im only going to comment on one part of this even though i have some more to say about all of it. IRAQ IS FULL OF TERRORISTS! They have a group called... wait for it... al-Qaeda in Iraq. They have been decreasing in numbers a lot since we have been over there. Yes, Afghanistan was the "starter" of 9-11 but if you think there are not any ties between all the middle eastern countries youre out of your mind.

Very true, it seemed to be a winner for us in the Revolution...

But yet we can increase our debt with "stimulus," that makes sense... God forbid we increase it to help our troops out. Hmmm... i thought religions still existed because of a belief system, a set of morals and faith. My bad, i guess its because a Muslim cant convince me to go over to his/her religion. And then if we were allllll Muslim, wouldnt that still be a religion? Hmmm... Here comes the 5th pass of that number 69 car. How would he be? He isnt a citizen, he is a war criminal... How is this hard to see? I know i know i know, we are not (on paper) at war... I would have to agree, it was a terrorist attack. Once in a while you get a Benedict Arnold. Sucks yes, but it happens. When do we start blaming him for bad things instead of the previous administration? 1 year? 2 years? The end of his term? As for comparing him and Biden (Oh dear God, or Buddha, or Allah, or the tree in the back yard, whoever it is you pray to/worship) thats a different thread if i had to guess, but i think things would be smoother right now without Obama in office.

More or that heroism i was talking about. I think im getting a mancrush. Just kidding... but really... youre awesome!

Very true... some people dont, and NEVER will.

Well, OJ Simpsons first trial cost over $9 million... you think this isnt going to cost more than that???? I try VERY VERY hard to NEVER (almost never) divert to calling people names in debates but... Are you an idiot? This is the kind of crap I was talking about, people are arguing about stuff they have NO idea what they are talking about.

Oh man... Kosmo just brought a whole new mess of crap... i might have to "ground" myself and say no computer for a week!

WELCOME!!! FTW!

It worked, in their intended way, by killing the infidels (or non believer). In the sick twisted way they interpret their religion, they did exactly what they intended to do. Kill us, help recruit more of them (in their home countries, and obviously some of our own people) and provide instability in our country. That part didnt work as well as I am sure they had planned but hey...

I think his way worked pretty well actually. He succeeded VERY well in his task at hand. He was taught, he did what he was taught, passed it on and everything worked out, other than flt 93. I think its the same for our guys... People just seem to think they need to pick everything, our guys do, apart and criticize it. But again, this is just my opinion.

But, i have some of MY OWN life experience. I am NOT an expert, but I assure you I have more experience in the matter than you do. FYI... i am not trying to get into a measuring contest here... just putting it out there.

Good luck with the fix up. Good stuff, .22's are a blast!

Well, we will have to agree to disagree on this. Because I believe this will not be the best option and it will show. More than just Muhammad will be on trial and some stuff wont even make it to trial... I guess we will have to see how it works out.

Are you trained on how to interrogate people? Do you know which methods, from your own experience, work best? Are you trained in military law? These are the things I am referring to. No, I am not advocating dragging bodies through the streets, no I am not advocating knee capping someone to get information. What I am saying is there are tactics that work, there are tactics that dont, there is a time for a civilian court, there are times for a military court. This person should be in a military tribunal, not a civilian court. I am no expert in military law, but i did happen to do a bit of law enforcement, apprehensions, court martials blah blah blah... refer to my other posts on the rest...

Well the end of this thread bring me back to the ORIGINAL point of this whole thing... Since he isnt a US citizen, IS and enemy combatant and we are in a war SETTING... he shouldnt be tried in NYC... Im going to leave the rest of the statement alone...

Im going to pull a card from your book... This is where i stopped reading your post... YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT... let the experts do what they have to to get the information. I have PERSONALLY interrogated MULTIPLE people, both foreign (Iraqis and Afghanis) and domestic, and let me tell you, sitting there making friends with them DOES NOT WORK! Buying them a drink does not work. You speak from what you read from people who are against "torture." Read some of the info that was received after using "torture," as you guys call it, and see the amounts of GOOD, USABLE, intel that is received from it. I am not saying I am an expert because I am not, but I do have some experience in the matter.

You are my hero! You say things that in my fits of rage I cant seem to find the words for. People who have NO idea what is going on on either side of the war trying to tell people how things are and should be done. Sweet...

Waterboarding is CERTAINLY not torture. If you want to see some torture, check out what they do to people. Am i saying that we should do what they do, NO. I am saying that sometimes fire needs to be fought with fire. But that doesnt mean we will use napalm, just a couple lighters. There is no way that I would consider it torture. Even if it was me being waterboarded, would it suck? Heck ya it would. Would I give my buddy up if they did it to me, more than likely, yes. When he was waterboarded it was one of the LEGAL ways to suppress information. Now with our wonderful (put that there since some people need them to notice sarcasm) Commander in Chief that we have, it is illegal. And now NY is the kangaroo court since it it trying someone who isnt entitled to the Constitutional rights we are... awesome!

Well, from what I have looked at they are all about evenly priced (30-06 seems a little less depending on location, make blah blah blah) but the 30-06 packs a pretty good punch, seems to do a little better in long distance shots than the .308 (even though as of NOW i am not planning on shooting too long of distances) and I have yet to shoot a .308 so... I enjoy shooting the -06, as I am sure I will enjoy a .308 also whenever I shoot that. But since I havent, this is what I base my thought process on. No one has swayed me either direction and since I was initially thinking 30-06, that seems to be what is sticking. Should i like something else?

Some threads (and more the posts that some people put up) kill me...

Thank you! Hmmmmm.... Or in this case, we will end up drunk. Because buying your "adversary" beer is the way to win wars!

Soooo.... WHERE did I say ANYTHING about being afraid of him being in NYC??? Right there tells me the CRAP you come up with in your mind. The rest of your posts on here... Wow... I dont even know what to say. However, some of it has been said already so i guess it doesnt matter. Not that anything I say will change anything anyways... You will still pay for everyone elses mistakes and healthcare and school and babies and......... People like this guy will still have "rights" even though he afforded NONE to the people he planned to kill. This long court process is going to come out of OUR pockets. There is going to be MANY facts that WONT be brought into the courtroom due to the sensitivity or it all. This makes NO sense at all to have the trial here... RETARDED!

Um... we also make a martyr by publicizing the crap out of this. That makes no sense. And he isnt a "normal" criminal, he shouldnt be in a "normal" court room.

Thanks guys... The 7mm is still something I am tossing around but for some reason a 30-06 just keeps sounding nice. I guess with apples ad oranges it doesnt matter. I am just looking for something that is nice, accurate and fun to shoot. We shall see what a gun show will get me. Thanks again.

Nope... no hookers and blow option on this one... sorry SAM