Scottie, Just saw your post - That's 2 of us riding in the weather. I have been in Maryville, TN since Thurs. - rode Charohala, Foothills, Dragon (didn't know Deals Gap closed "for the season"). Cold but dry until yesterday. It had snowed top of Charohala and had been salted so had to slow down for that - prob about 15 miles. Anyway, guys, the Dragon is FUN as ever when not having to share the road and leaves are off - you can see farther ahead. Headed home today - looks cold but dry for today. Wagner