this is alittle off subject but my brother and I was going to deer creek the 2nd day of dear gun around noon we showed up to a differant spot. we get out of the truck get all our gear together and start to have a pop/coffee. 1 min later a brandnew landrover pulls up and two middle aged guys get out and start unloading their gear (no big deal deer creek is huge) untill everything they pull out of the truck has brand new tags on it. shirts.boots....socks....jackets.....and most of all the guns were still in there cardboard boxes. it was clear that this was their first public land hunt or possibly 1st deer gun hunt ever. me and my brother are pretty good guys so we walked over to start conversation and see if they needed some help and they talked to us like we were just a bunch of toothless hicks(which were not) so we turned around got in the truck and left.. come to find out my brother called me later that night and said that someone shot their self in the foot at deer creek that day. lol . to this day i wonder if it was one of them two guys.