Mr. Jones

Yes, thank you. This is eons ago on a car without any "sport", just full on rape, or nothing at all. Nothing at all seems to work better on older cars.:fuuuu: With the new stuff, I am in agreement. I've never had an occasion to take the TTRS out of "sport" and into full off, short of AutoX, where will occasionally get uneasy when the rear end swings around quickly. It will let you flat out drift an offramp without any intervention, which is good in my book.

It's fascinating to hear you describe it from the inside. I'd probably have to diagram it to properly explain what I'm trying to convey. But imagine, entering roundabout and trying to go straight through through it, so the 2nd exit. But do to to a giant icey lane and impending understeer, you steer left and floor it rotate the rear and "drift" away in a new direction with all 4 tires now parallel to my previous direction. With ESC, on step1, it's already saying WTF are you doing turning the wheel that sharply, we're slipping, and it applies brakes, you try to power oversteer and it cuts power, really inducing even more understeer plowing you right into said object. Without ESC, car rotates and power gradually pulls away from my original intended direction, and carries me to my next point with all 4 tires whirring away.

DAT LTD

TRUCK VS TWIN TURBO VETTE LOL I'd love to see the math on that. Well see, it's not fair. He has 4WD & All that weight, and no wheelhop problems. I mean, the truck practically drives itself.

ESP/Traction control can also screw you royally in a bad situation IMO. Years ago, not thinking, (Probably a tad too fast). I went into a round about, and the outer half was all slick as the plow picked up at the edge. I automatically tried to steer out of it and give power. ESP stepped in, cut power, and tried to brake the car instead, pretty much defeating my intent to try and power out of it with awd and pull it the other way out of the turn. Same corner, esp off, the car had no problem pulling it away from the curb, and in the desired direction, spinning the tires with delight and control. I understand that ESP doesn't really account for someone trying to avoid an obstacle by doing such things, but it really highlights it's shortcomings. With ESP on, it expects you to always have the car's front end pointed where you want it and doing below the speed limit.

I use the good old fashioned "eyes" model. Works really well, and it's free. I've only ever used the systems that are OEM, they work, but I still found myself, even after a year, doing it the old fashioned way. I imagine after so long you begin to trust it though.

They obviously didn't review his custom built TT Vette. One look at the hood and they would instantly made it the best drivers car.

I had hoped the weather would clear, making for a super crisp turbo day. Sure as hell not going out on a snow covered track.:fuuuu: At least we have snow for the first time in a few years that's worth a damn.

Never seen someone try to backpedal and make excuses like this before, not even with a stock honda. I got a TT Vette, but I'm not about to step up to that Colt, I heard it runs race gas, fuck that.

Feel asleep half way through.

That would have been a downgrade. R FTW

Even more comedy gold.

Do you even lift?

Lexus LOL

I like the newer "multi stage" ESP Programs, but still think the older single stage stuff sucks donkey cawk. In the A4, if I get the slightest bit of rotation out of the rear, it instantly cuts in backs the throttle down and does some braking and straightens it out. In the TT, I drive with "sport control" enabled. It allows the tires to spin, and for to swing the ass end around, just not do a 180 or anything else stupid. In this mode, I've never had it intervene on the streets, but still have to turn it off @ AutoX as it will cut in while swinging around a corner at times.

Why would you care with a TT C6?

What about us with snow tires and awd? Eat my dust beemer boi.

Your car is so slow, it goes back in time.

The Venetian treated us well, and it was very very reasonable.

You storing the Jeep for the winter?

White beater lol

AWD is always fun in the snow, and can be fun on dry pavement with enough power.

This.