Hywstar

JFC man....I simply tried to give an answer to the thread opener...not every situation listed,,(which seem to stray away from the answer only individual situations). You list as a Senior member on this site..if this is how a new member is treated let me the hell out...If this site is all about you then sorry..I wasnt informed..Logic tells me that if you want to talk about YOU or YOUR situation..Start a new thread...I dont believe I mentioned you or anyone else in my offer of assistance to the thread opening question... Its your call in every situation...no deer were mentioned in the opener of this thread. Im not picking or whatever anyone but also wont take crap either. I had hopes of only trying to help out and paint a picture to an answer...nothing else!!! By the way...The safe riders course offered by Harley Davidson does instruct a hard stop in a turn..Check it out.

Yes...Thanks...Tomcat..edited name

Like some one said, its an excuss. Try this, take a piece of steal and rubber. Slide them down the street and see which one slides the farthest. The steel will slide much farther. Hi and low side lay downs of a bike are a natural human reaction to avoid a possible accident but can be a controlled accident if understood. A low side lay down happens when the rear tire is locked up, kicks out to either side of bike until the bike is down. Usually happens when in a turn and a hard break situation. A locked up rear will kick out much faster in a turn than on a straight and so takes more experience to control. A high side starts out the same as the low side except that the rear tire was allowed to regain traction by letting off the rear brake. Once the rear even starts to regain grip it then trys to get behind the front tire making the bike stand up again. Which, depending on how far the rear tire is out, you may or may not maintain control. If just slightly out you may get a slight rush of that was close and maintain. But if way out it can throw you completely. Low side lay down is the safest due to a high side you have no control of where and how far you are going to go but also, where is the bike which is more than likely following you. But a high side can also be used to throw you over that car that pulled out in front of you. The car absorbs the bike. Due payment ay. Just hope the landing area is grassy. Hope this helps....Ride safe.

Just like to say Thanks to Tomcat for the invitation to join the Ohio Riders and Hello to the rest of you. My name is Allen and have been riding for most of my life. Started out on a tricycle and have been moving up ever since. Both of my Brothers also ride so its something thats just in the family. I would also like to introduce my GF Laura of over 4 years who just got her license and is well on her way to group rides. We live in Plain City and members of the HOG chapter at C and A Harley Davidson. I am originally from Lexington Ohio so know that whole area very well. We usually ride up to the area of Mohican State Park or over towards Hocking Hills but you may catch us pulling out of any road side stop out exploring new spots. We are out of doors people and love scenic areas preferably with lots of hills and twistys. We hit a lot of poker runs or bike events all over Ohio and look forward to helping any way we can. We really hope to meet up with you out on a organized ride or just out on the road. Again Thanks All and ride safe. Al and Laura