I don't think it matters much anymore. 3800pro has been slow now that the 3800 motor has been scrapped by GM. Not taking anything away from INTENSE or the other members on the forum. When I was modding my GTP I spent a lot of time on 3800pro, lots of solid advice, very helpful members. I never had a problem with INTENSE either, their products worked fine for me. I heard a lot of drama about them in the beginning but I can only go off of my personal experience which has been a good one. Long story short though, you’re not really missing anything there now, mostly de-mod and FS threads. As far as the ban goes, that seems kind of silly to me, but I guess that’s the advantage of owning your own forum…