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.... get "list of exclusions".... check. .... look into supplemental disability..... check. Thanks guys, you've been a big help. Most people's responses on this subject (on this site and others) are crass and uninformative. This was really productive. You guys rock!!!!!!

I did what I really didn't want to do and called my Ins Co. to ask point blank what is covered (they logged the call, and what it was about for "future reference"), which I had been avoiding. We all know each Ins Co is different, and they all have different plans, but my particular one covers any type of crash, as long as I'm not getting paid to race. I hope this is the norm, for everyone else's sake. I don't think getting paid to race is gonna be an issue for me I really appreciate everyone's input, and the link. I would hate to know what a heli ride costs, and am gonna get in contact. Thanks!!!!

Soooo...... I have posted about this in the past, and not really gotten things figured out. A little backstory: I have done a fair amount of track days over the past 4 seasons, and wanted to try my hand at actual racing. I went to Nelson Ledges for school and to get my certification so that I could do some Motoseries rounds and hopefully vintage days at Mid-O (I'm and SV guy). It was my first time at Nelson and third lap 'round I went wide out of the carousel and long story short, ended up with a $71,000 collar bone. It's my understanding that I am lucky in that I did this during a track day practice session, so I was covered under my normal health insurance policy. It's also my understanding (and someone please correct me if I don't have accurate info) that I were to have done this, say, during a race on Sunday that I would not have been covered and had to foot the bill, putting me MASSIVELY in debt. I have been looking around at supplemental insurance like AFLAC, but the policies they offer wouldn't have even come close to covering my last accident, if it were to have happened on Sunday. So what do you guys that race do? Is there something I am missing/don't know about? Do you have supplemental insurance? I would much appreciate any input or opinions and thanks for your time in advance.

Great vid, perfect music.

I am, just not the right day....... I guess I'll be there on Tuesday. I'm doing Putnam the 28th, and don't think my body will let my do three consecutive track days (I'm not even sure about two this close together). So are you gonna bail on work and go both days?! You're in better shape than me Come on................. Come on................. You know you want to.

Me too. Really, I'd rather do both though..............

You got a great shot of me, Thanks!

Don't you just love these little GoPro's? A person can try to explain something all day, but it's just not the same as seeing things in real time. I have a good bit of footage of you that I will have posted up sometime in the near future. Maybe if I up the amount of stars in my paint job, I'll make my way up the awesome list (jk, she told me you're not fond of those). It was really cool to see how much faster you got over the course of one day. Hope to see you out there again!

Holy crap that was close. I'm Glad I was already going to the left of them. Good riding with you today............

Ha! Yeah, I've got some money to burn, but the 107% thing definitely isn't happening on my li'l SV (or any other bike with me on it, for that matter). I seem to remember reading somewhere that SVs can run with the vintage guys though? Ima go look around.......................

Are there any events @ Mid Ohio that a novice could participate in? I started doing track days with the idea of getting into racing, but my work schedule only allows me to get away for one day at a time, which has pretty much limited me to doing PTRs in Lexington. I would love to try a race, just for fun (like redkow). Also, what kinda disability insurance (if any) do you racers carry?

I did. Well, I ran I most of the day, then the last two sessions I got to try out A. This is my first time signing up for A.

I'll be riding a red SV650 in A group. I have black, white and gray Gericke leathers. Stop by and say "hey" if any of you feel so inclined............

I hope it's still on, I signed up on Wednesday. I'll be there Tues, regardless.

OK............... (sigh) To answer your question frankly, I wouldn't sell a gun to a stranger. The process would be non-existent. I have traded guns for a bike (to a stranger) on one occasion. That was after riding with him, and getting to know him, and his family, after hanging out with them multiple times. Didn't seem like a fucktard (I'd don't know that for a fact though, but I was satisfied enough). THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT SELLING GUNS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST GO ABOUT HAPHAZARDLY. "that dude" 's posts pretty much say, in so many words, "sell a gun to a felon, all you have to do is make sure they're over 21". That's dumb. Really dumb. I'm gonna repeat myself one more time (I'm starting to feel like a broken record) DO WHAT YOU CAN. If Johnny crackhead wants to buy a gun from you, maybe you should think twice about that. If you don't know Johnny well enough to know whether he's a crackhead or not, you might want to reconsider selling him a lethal weapon. Is that really hard to understand? It's not an I.D. check, it's a common sense check. If you're hellbent on selling guns to strangers, I don't know what to tell you. The original post says, and I've centered on this theme, is that "that dude" is a fucktard for making it a point to sell guns to anyone and everyone over 21. A gun is not an xbox 360, to be sold to anyone with enough money to buy them. Lemme ask you a question..... You're selling a gun. The guy shows up to your house. He shows you I.D., he's over 21. You ask him if he's a convicted felon. He answers no. He then starts to talk about how his 14 year old brother has (coincidentally) always wanted one of the guns that you're selling. You're selling it to him right? That's the only thing that makes sense, right? You wouldn't want to step on his rights guaranteed by the constitution, right? The selling a gun to a stranger question is one with an unclear answer, with a lot of gray area. Doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution? If you don't understand where I'm coming from tbutera2112, sorry. If you think I'm the world's biggest doo doo head, sorry dude. But FWIW, based on the question you posed that made me think a little, I don't think you're a fucktard.

Well that's not very nice. Hope you're not being serious. Otherwise, you'd almost come off as a bit of a fucktard.

I only get two to choose from? That's a pretty limited view of things. I was referring to his attitude in general. Do you think that if (god forbid, and that's not sarcasm) a gun crime was committed against him, or one of his family members by someone who shouldn't (legally or ETHICALLY) own a gun, his attitude would be "oh that's cool, they asked for I.D., it's all good"? Or do you think he might want to know why/how a bi-polar person with anti-social or psychotic tendencies got a P89? His regard for COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT FOR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS is sub-par at best, non-existent at worst. It's about prudence and common sense, and going out of your way if you have to, to do what you can to keep someone else safe. Whether you know them or not, whether you will be impacted or not. It's what decent, respectful people do. The fact that you question me on this issue of BASIC LOGIC, makes me wonder about you........................ It's a matter of right and wrong. Unless that is, I'm interpreting your words not as you intended (easy to do when typing/reading, not speaking), in which case I apologize for being harsh. Have a nice day.................

After reviewing the posts in this thread, and a lot of other posts by "that dude" (gotta love that find-all-posts-by...... function), I've come to the conclusion (as a critically thinking, non-troglodyte) that of all the fucktard idiots in all the fucktard threads, of all the fucktard forums, you take the cake my friend. Your head is is irreversibly shoved up your ass. I can now only hope that your influence is limited, and you don't find too many cohorts (looks like you've only come across a few in here, wonder why?), and that you reproduce as little as possible. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY LAW? WHAT ABOUT A LITTLE COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT FOR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS!? You are truly classless. Whatcha got for me? Let's hear it (proper English please, and words more than one syllable are a plus). Grant

For what it's worth. I traded some guns for a dirt bike last year, with some craigslister. Call me paranoid or what you want, but I............ -Asked for I.D. -Recorded serial #s of guns on contract -Recorded amount paid (in my case, what each gun was valued at, bike too) on contract -Recorded VIN of bike on contract -Threw in some general release of liability B.S. -Had him sign in front of witness Better safe than sorry, all this shit was free to do, handwritten. What can it hurt, if it gives you (or me) a little peace of mind?

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Hey Brian, thanks for responding again! "1) Stock forks and you are WELL outside the limits of those things." You were absolutely right. The zip tie was, as you said, CRUSHED. I'm using every bit of my fork travel on the brakes. An even better excuse to get some new goodies over the winter. "As for turn 1, stick a little closer to the curbing. Stay in tight and exit wider, but leave room outside for passing. You are more mid track in the video and I suggest tightening that up a bit." Gotcha. "Turn 2-3 is also a spot to keep a little tighter." It's my tires, they're holding me back. Just kidding. On the straight between 1 and 2, should I maybe setup a little farther to the right on the track, and "thread the needle" through 2 and 3? "You can hear you exiting on the gas sooner than before..." ABSOLUTELY! I don't know if you noticed or not, but compared to my last videos, that line choice through the keyhole translated to an extra 5 MPH at the end of the straight, which for my little SV, is huge! "Off the back straight - connect the curbs from 7 to 8. Don't swing out to the right so much. A lot of wasted real estate being used there. Also, stay tight initially and exit out wider out of 8." Damn. I mean, damn. I thought I had that ironed out. I guess relatively speaking, I was tighter than my last videos, but I s'pose it's not hard to improve on crap. Tightening that up, I think, will require a little more testicular fortitude on my part, but I trust your advice. In my head, it kinda feels like aiming for the grass. Is that the way it feels to you, or am I not looking at this the right way? Really though, thanks again Brian. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your advice. You posses a level of input unavailable elsewhere. Take care, I hope to see you out there the 27th or 28th (assuming you'll be attending), if I can figure something out with work.

Well, I don't know if anyone is even going to respond to this old thread, but here goes anyway.......................... This is video from Monday. I feel like I made some improvements, thanks in large part to everyone's input, especially STT-Brian. Thanks for the advice especially on turn 1 natedogg, it really helped. I am still not too sure about my line in 2 and 3 though. Any opinions on my line on the back straight? I like to leave plenty of room for people to pass on either side, on account of my uber-slow top end, but don't want to take a "weird" unpredictable line. Anything else? I know I could be faster. At the end of the day, I'm trying to get a feel for whether I need to be in A group or not. I don't want to hold anyone up, but, this past Monday, I group was not a ton of fun for me. It wasn't bad (I WAS riding at Mid Ohio after all), but I got held up more than not. One session I ran down hot pit 3 times, 'cause I kept catching back up to the traffic. It did seem exceptionally busy that day though. Hope someone sees this, and if so, thanks as always................. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr2W1G1atW0

LMAO, that's some funny shit. Sorry though jbot, no dice. I didn't see you anywhere. I guess that means you were faster than me and I didn't catch up to you at any point? If you're gonna be out on the 6th, maybe You'll show up on cam then.