Stock should be where I was running with the chip. Thats with an excellent driver, which I am obviously not. The best time Ive seen posted bone stock was 14 flat. I ran that with the chip. Ill go ahead and make the excuses, the car does have 2 bad O2 sensors and most of the later runs were dont with a 200+lb passenger. Neither of which make up for the poor driving. Im still happy that I made headway on launching technique (it is harder than it seems with AWD). Im really not THAT far off of what people run with a chip (seems that mid 13's are the mean). Anywhoo, it was a fun day and My arms are burnt as hell, left one more so than the right lol. Farmers tan FTL.