Jack, A lot more members would vote vs post. Right now Doc and Derek are looking into options for the ride. Starting a poll may help them and others decided what they would like. It would also keep this tread for this ride vs a mess of opinions and ride experience. Not all the members will view a thread dedicated to a past date and ride. As far as several rides and activities you need volunteers to help with leading, sweeping, etc. We have a hard time now with leads and sweeps. I doubt the major has spoke up, I see different riders at each event most of which have not chimed in. Just my .02