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Love it! The power is almost scary but the ride is almost as smooth as the wing but rides like a sports bike. The wife was shocked when I finally talked her into getting on it how comfortable it was. The bike is way more comfortable than the 1050's I tried out and since it is considered a dual purpose bike, the insurance is cheaper than a new 1050. Going from a goldwing to this bike took some getting used to but after a littler tweaking, I am almost there. I didn't like the reach or leaning to the handlebars as much ( though not bad just wanted a change) so I did the ROX risers, I am doing a new windsheild, got the soft bag for the rear end for gear. You might want a top box so she can lean on it like a back rest. Forward pegs will be added soon as well and a lot of gas! Go to triumph of Cincinnati and talk to Lou as he is a great guy to deal with and tell him the gun guy sent you!

That was a bad grammar mistake on my part!

No not cute, just was surprised as they came highly recomended to me. I have 2 friends who bought there so I tried them out. Yes I did originally wanted the explorer but settled on the Vstrom as it was a great bike and would have been happy with it. After I went home after 3 hours of driving , I found a 2012 explorer with 450 miles on it for $13,000 on craigslist which in the end was only a few grand more not $7000. The money was never the issue as I can buy whatever I want. I just wanted something lighter than the goldwing. If it was as simple as offer counter offer I would not complain and would respected that as that is common in my other businesses as well. We made a deal and some how it turned into MSRP minus the cases. They chose to make the deal and that is why I went there. All the "we are taking the risk of selling the cases" is crap as they were coming from Suzuki. If it was a risk either put on your big girl panties and deal with it or don't plane and simple. Why would I have to pay more to cover their asses if it didn't turn out in their favor? A few hundred bucks makes no difference in my life but it was the point of it. The "tabloid topic worthy" header made you read it didn't it. I just wanted any other person who might be looking for a bike think about it that's all.

Nice try Brad, if you are a Christian, why were you getting so upset because I didn't agree with what ever number you threw at me? You were awful pissed off because I didn't agree with you. I own 2 different companies and deal with all kinds of customers who range from nice to horrible. No matter what kind of day I had, I am always professional which you were not. Throwing " we are a Christian company" out there is somehow supposed to make everyone believe you? Really? I am related to 3 Popes and 1000th cousin to Jesus. So it trumps your Christian company. Does that make you believe me now? I hear your company does good things for the community, great. I hear it also does good things for the sport, also great. Some people are happy with your company, good for them and the people who work there. I just wanted people to know what tried on me and to be aware when dealing with you or any company. I guess in a way I should thank you as I ended up buying the bike I really wanted, a Triumph explorer and love it.

I was looking at the S10 as well until I rode it and a Triumph explorer up at Joe's. The S10 put me to far forward into more of a crotch rocket posture. I know I could raise/ change the bars and tweak the bike but once I rode the explorer, it seem to fit me better and the triple is a monster! I agree both bikes are not the best off road bike but I bought it for the riding position and to be able to do fire roads and smooth trails. I think if it got stuck in the mud, you might need a crane to pull it out!

Their online reputation was why I drove 1 1/2 hours to get there. I was shopping around and had several dealers offer me the deal on discounting the bike for the side cases. I guess since their parts are much higher in cost versus other dealers, they do not sell as much and had no clue on dealing with suzuki on getting the credit for the bags. I specifically asked about a discount on parts if I bought the bike there as I wanted to get everything on it at the same time. The sales man told me "the parts department is a different entity than the dealership ( not quite sure how that can be) and "I can't discount their parts and they can't discount our bikes". We agreed on a price for the bike out the door cash money. I then asked him to add the extras to the bike and give me that number. A couple days later before I went up there, he checked with the sales manager if they could drop the money off for the cases and they said yes. If the truth was the parts department were separate from the bikes, why would it matter if I bought them or not since the case money was coming from Suzuki? We went from the original deal to MSRP since the manager had no clue what to do with the cases? I think the sales man was as surprised as I was by the bad attitude the manager had towards the deal and towards me for having the guption to question him about it. I think he was actually thrown a curve as the sales manager who originally approved the deal wasn't there, didn't communicate it well when they called him about it and didn't know how to deal with it. That is still his fault not mine. As the manager and sometimes the face of the company, I would think he would have a better grip and not get so upset so fast toward a customer. My whole point is if you have dealt with them and are happy, fine. If you are willing to pay whatever they want, fine. If you make a deal on the phone or by email, have it on paper and check you numbers when all is done as they were changing the numbers on me. As with any dealership, buyer be ware.

Well I decided to get a suzuki Vstrom after many weeks of deliberation. Suzuki was offering free panniers with the purchase of the bike for a limited time. Granted they normally cost $1600 to purchase and are crappy side cases but several dealers offered to take $1100 off the price of the bike. I contacted Clinton county motorsports and talked to Kent. He gave me a price on the bike I wanted and then I wanted to add a few accessories to it. He told me they can not discount the parts as they were a different entity than the dealership so I figured whatever. Then I asked them to see if they would take the money for the cases off the bike and they reluctantly agreed. It took me 1 1/2 hours to drive up there and when there we proceeded to take a very cold test drive and I liked the bike and was set to purchase. I brought a stack of $100 bills so I didn't need financing so it should be easy. We went over and looked at the accessories and agreed what was included was over priced or not what was requested so I asked him to go back to the original price quote before the accessories and he said no problem. I told him I would take it and to write it up. I went with the cute little girl to look at helmets as I need a new expensive one and some cold weather gear. The general manager came over with the paperwork and it didn't seem right so we went over the numbers. It didn't add up and asked why. He told me since I didn't take the over priced accessories, I would have to pay MSRP for the bike but they would still take off the cost of the panniers. I told him I was paying full price for the accessories, reminded him I was told the parts department was a separate entity and was already quoted this price before driving 1 1/2 hours up there. His response was he called the sales manager and he wasn't going to lose money on a bike. WTF? I asked how was he going to lose money by by honoring the original deal he approved before the accessories were added? Then changing the deal by charging me MSRP and getting the funds from suzuki? The difference was only $367 but I walked out over principal and was surprised they let me walk.The sad thing was the entire time I talked to the sales man, he kept reassuring me they were not like other stealerships and treated everyone honestly. After I left, I stopped by Middletown Honda on the way home but they didn't have a bike I wanted. I did talk to the parts person and looked up all the parts for the Vstrom in case they got one in. I was shocked how much cheaper all the parts were there versus CCM.

Well I decided after many days on the net ( and a hammering by the wife) to get a suzuki Vstrom. They were offering free panniers with the purchase of the bike for a limited time. Granted they normally cost $1600 to purchase and are crappy side cases but several dealers offered to take $1100 off the price of the bike. I contacted Clinton county motorsports and talked to kent. He gave me a price on the bike then I wanted to add a few accessories to it. He told me they can not discount the parts as they were a different entity than the dealership so I figured whatever. Then I asked them to see if they would take the money for the cases off the bike and they reluctantly agreed. It took me 1 1/2 hours to drive up there and when there we proceeded to take a very cold test drive and I liked the bike and was set to purchase. I brought a stack of $100 bills so I didn't need financing so it should be easy. We went over and looked at the accessories and agreed what was included was over priced or not what was requested so I asked him to go back to the original price quote before the accessories and he said no problem. I told him I would take it and to write it up. I went with the cute little girl to look at helmets as I need a new expensive one and some cold weather gear. The general manager came over with the paperwork and it didn't seem right so we went over the numbers. It didn't add up and asked why. He told me since I didn't take the over priced accessories, I would have to pay MSRP for the bike but they would still take off the cost of the panniers. I told him I was paying full price for the accessories, reminded him I was told the parts department was a separate entity and was already quoted this price before driving 1 1/2 hours up there. His response was he called the sales manager and he wasn't going to lose money on a bike. WTF? I aske how was he going to lose money by by honoring the original deal he approved? Then changing the deal by charging me MSRP and getting the funds from suzuki? The difference was only $367 but I walked out over principal and was surprised they let me walk. I guess it may have been fate but a triumph tiger 1200 came up on Craigslist with everything I wanted on it, only had 480 miles on it and I got it for $5000 less than the new one I was looking at. The guy bought it for his wife and she hated how tall it was and he already had another one for himself. I love the bike and think I will be happier with this one over the Suzuki.

So if you take it back for the first service, that is all they do is change the oil? I thought they went through and checked certain parts to tighten them up, adjust them and change differential fluids? Is this just everyone's opinion about it or just a way to bash people who do not like to work on their rides. I personally hate it but have a bunch of customers who are mechanics and will trade ammo or guns for services.

Thanks for the input guys. I was hoping to not sell the wing and get the second bike. Just to see if there was intrest, I put it out front of the house and sure enough two people stopped and looked at it and the second person wants to buy it! I have to go tomorrow and sign it away with some regret as I really liked the wing. But I guess it is time to move on to something I am sure I will like better. I have sold some guns and ammo to get extra cash for the new bike. I am close to the money I need for the explorer but then I will need accessories like a top box or side boxes for stuff, taller windscreen and find a way to hear music ( a near must when I ride) and a way to attach a CB for talking to the old guys on the wings when we ride together. Should I go aftermarket for the boxes or try to work a deal with the dealership? Anyone use the factory boxes on their bikes?

Not kidding you. The last two bikes I have had were shaft drive and never changed a chain on any of the quads we had granted we didn't rack up the miles on those. I am 48, not a speed demon and feel mortal. What would be the life of a chain on a 1050 be? What do they cost to change? Thank all of you for your time!

I am looking at a couple of them now. Both are 2007 models no ABS. One has 30,000, it is white ( the color I prefer) new chain and sprocket. Why a chain and sprocket at that milage? And the other is a black one with only 18,000 miles and has never had anything done to it. They both have the hard bags on them and different aftermarket options but same price. Is there anything I need to look at or for on them?

Thanks Anden for the info. I was talking about the triumph 1050 tiger and I should have put it in the post. I keep hearing about the 12,000 service and was wondering if it is a big deal or not and do not know yet if it was done on the used bike I am looking at. Unfortunately I am not a good mechanic and do not like working on any of my rides. If it took a pro 2+ hrs to change the air filter on my wing, I just can't imagine what it would take me! Fortunately since I sell firearms and ammo and we have a lot of talented customers who have more time than money for their hobby.

Luckily we have two Triumph dealers around and I have a customer who will trade guns or ammo to work on things for me. I am still up in the air about the 1050.

I would have pissed on them! That would give them something to think about.