Well, not really. it is a different kind of riding, too. We "prefer to do" different things with those bikes, too. In addition, there is a sub-forum for dirt bikes and off-road bikes, too. So, that counter-argument doesn't hold water. No, Asshats abound here. I know that often we don't see our friends through clear eyes, but there are tons of them here. In the short time that I've been here, I've witnessed a couple of people get run off the forums because they did a different kind of riding than others do. "I don't do that, and my friends don't do that, and we don't want to be a part of your stupid parade". That's pretty much what it sounds like! Well, most people aren't going online to look for "respect" from forum members. Usually, they're looking to learn more, share ideas, meet people, etc. Is the issue that it's more of a "closed community", where forum members have to "prove" themselves somehow before they get said respect?