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nautical1

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  1. I question the fact that if your in a speed contest why so may occupants. Also why are they standing up. Boat under power= sit the fuck down.

    I was going to say the same thing. And I wouldn't doubt the guy had no idea how to control his boat, most people with a boat don't have the slightest clue about what to do and it's scary that almost anyone can buy a boat and take it out without a license. Growing up in a boating family and always being on lake erie and around the islands I have seen some crazy shit and I'd say boating is kind of like owning a motorcycle, some people truly learn and enjoy it and try to stay safe, while the majority do it because it looks fun and they think they look cool doing it and disregard their safety and everyone around them.

  2. I'm still not sure that the officer could be 100% identified from the video since you can't see his face since he has sunglasses on and he has not distinct facial features that the video shows. I wouldn't think their's enough proof to positively ID the officer in the video. But still, I don't see how an officer could get in any trouble from the video since they give warnings to people all the time along with tickets so someone could argue whatever they want to but I doubt the officer would get in trouble, but that's my opinion. This really isn't going anywhere though so I'm going to agree to just disagree and call it a day. :cheers:

  3. Been through the training and actually doing it in real life are 2 different things. ;). Now I don't deal with traffic violations (just felonies) in my line of work I know that defense attorneys will try anything to get their clients off. It was stated that this video couldn't affect the officer. It going to court would affect him and the tickets he chooses to write. It also sets up the officer for a potential discrimination lawsuit. It doesn't matter if the case is won or lost it will still affect him.

    Well of course a defense attorney will try anything to win their case, but I fail to see how the video could in any way hurt the officer, especially when his name isn't revealed.

    And OT, but I assume you're a lawyer, marshal, or something along those lines?

  4. "police training involves so yeah..". What are you saying here? Proof that the cop let someone else off for a more dangerous offense is a pretty good argument.

    I've been through the training..And saying Scruit's offense was dangerous is all opinion. Traffic wasn't heavy from what I could tell in the video and he didn't really pose as much of a danger to anyone around him which is likely what an officer would say. But again, it's the officers discretion what to do in every situation and you can argue this reason or that all day long and it probably won't help, maybe a reduced charge by the judge but that's their choice as well. As I said before, you may not like that but that's just how it goes. We could play this "what if" game forever but it won't get anywhere.

  5. Apparently you haven't dealt with many defense attorneys. How can the cop say it was ok to not ticket him at over 25mph over the speed limit but someone else going less over the speed limit should have a ticket?

    In a time where budgets are at a low and people are feeling their tax dollars are being wasted people feel cops should be doing their job aka writing tickets.

    I know what defense attorneys do police training involves so yeah..

    An officers job isn't to write tickets, it's to keep the public safe (in a nutshell) and it's their discretion if they want to write a ticket, it is not mandatory nor a quota. If and officer feels someone deserves a ticket for whatever reason then that's how it is. A repeat offender is likely going to get a ticket versus someone who has a clean record..Now that doesn't mean you couldn't fight it since you can go to court for pretty much any reason, but it doesn't mean you'll win.

  6. Talking about it and showing proof of him not doing what is expected of him on a public forum are two different things. If you had a friend who worked at say a restaurant who gave you a huge discount just because. Letting the owner know may not be in your friends best interest. Now let's say I get a ticket from the same cop for 25 or less. I go to court with your video. I claim I thought it was ok because he politely let you go. How's he going to justify that to the court? Now say I'm of a different race and I claim the reason he ticketed me was due to my race. What argument would he have to prove otherwise?

    An officer isn't expected to ticket people, just uphold the law and it's their choice what they want to do with a traffic stop. The cop could easily say that Scruit had a clean record, was courteous, and didn't seem to be a threat so he felt that in his situation it would be enough to give him a warning. As for the video, you don't know the officers name so how could you prove who it was if you were to get pulled over? Even if you did know his name and got a ticket, he doesn't really have to explain his actions, every traffic stop is different (such as safety for the officer, what kind of ticket, traffic around you, etc.) so he could say that during that time he felt a ticket was appropriate and there isn't much you could do about it. And if someone pulls the race card in court the judge will have evidence of what happened and likely throw that argument out the window since you have no evidence that he was racist. You may not like it but that's the way it is.

    And posting the video up can't incriminate either party so who cares?

  7. You shud come out more often for the neo rides and lets get a ride in even before this.

    I would but the 'easy' pace is probably my fast pace, and I usually enjoy a riding at ~6 over on straights and whatever kind of pace I'm feeling durings twisties. And are there anymore people in NEO around Akron thart may wanna ride down?

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