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If by "They" you mean everyone in politics...well part of being a politician is being position flexible so you could technically call them hypocrites. I prefer to think of them as advocates of the public interest and it's the public they are appealing to that has a fickle opinion. this all boils down to the "reason" for the termination. He wasn't fired for his influence in the election even though a lot of people think he should have. It looks like he was fired because he was investigating the current administration and doing so would cease that investigation. You can be worried about the investigation of foreign power influence on our government and still think Comey should have been fired. Let's be clear - nobody is calling for Comey's reinstatement. He was fired and everyone is kind of ok with him not being the head of the FBI. What they are not ok with is the reason. They are unhappy with the president because it looks like he is trying to circumvent a government investigation. That's why there is so much call for a special prosecutor - because nobody wants comey back.

http://jalopnik.com/the-one-millionth-porsche-911-is-exceedingly-lovely-1795121703 1 millionth 911. Nothing fancy, not a turbo or anything. But those retro interior details and the irish green paint...:masturboy:

I saw that....talk about oiling the track. I don't know that fuel altereds run radiators so I guess it was oil and fuel mixing?

company incentives make a huge difference in the equation. I think Chevy's supplier pricing is $3K off the top before any further dealer incentives which is hard to beat with a lease deal. I get subaru VIP pricing at work which is 2% under invoice.

sort of...you can still afford to buy the car, but it makes less financial sense to do so because you hold it for longer and you pay more to do it (5 year finance vs 3 year lease). It's about $471 (per chevy's website) a month to finance the car for 2 years where as a lease is about $237. The book value of a volt after 5 years is about $12-$13K but by leasing at that rate (twice) for 5 years you would have saved $14040, so in reality leasing saves you roughly $1K-2K over a 5 year period. Most of the depreciation in the hybrids and electrics happens between the 2 and 5 year mark - the closer you get to that 8-10 year battery replacement schedule the more worthless the car becomes.

I can't even....:dumb: This. all of this. Brandon, Forget politics for a second, If there was evidence that another foreign power meddled with our election so as to enhance it's position in the world, wouldn't you want to know the full scope and extent of that meddling? And if the head of the country fired the head of the group conducting that investigation when it looks like the head of the country was possibly involved wouldn't you think it is suspicious? And wouldn't you be worried about the investigation loosing momentum? I am going to assume yes since you are not an idiot. So why does it being republican president and the media suddenly make a difference? There are lots of people concerned about this on both sides, so really knock it off with the "liberal media" nonsense - even the WSJ is reporting on this in the same manner and it can hardly be called "liberal". Somethings are just newsworthy.

When my father leased his volt he was able to get all the tax credits and incentives applied to the price of the vehicle. Twice. The Tax credit doesn't go to the leasing company, it goes to the mfg who then passes it on to the dealer who uses it to lower msrp. They are not obligated to do this by law, but almost all of them do it to be competitive. The lease is based on the adjusted price post incentives so the depreciation works out to be less than you think. Now, if you live within a single charge range of where you work or usually drive, there are charging stations at your home and destination, and your fuel costs for the month are about $200-$250 and your lease payment in that same range, then eliminating the fuel costs by buying electric will offset the lease payment - meaning your total vehicle expenses go down for the month. In a finance agreement, the payments would be higher so the effect of the offset would not be as great. With qualifying plug in hybrids and electric cars once they are out of warranty they are more expensive to fix than a conventional car due to the complexity and the expense of battery technology (which you don't realize has a finite lifespan regardless of mileage - imagine if you had to replace a tranny every 10 years regardless of mileage). Battery technology is also the area whose evolution is most critical to the functionality of the car and you can't upgrade older tech easily. So if you meet the certain parameters, leasing a hybrid/electric car is a better deal than financing a conventional ICE powered car. My father experienced this with both his volts, he was able to charge it at home and work, and most of his driving was in congested city areas which were bad for ICE mpg anyway so his fuel cost dropped to nil. For any long trips they usually had to take the dog so they took my mother's car and so nothing changed for them. He often said having the volt was like having a free new car since he was just paying for what he was paying in gas. I have two different co-workers who have leafs and they tell me the same thing - their commute and daily use fuel costs dropped by the same amount as their lease payment so it felt like a "free new car".

I'll add a third to this (which doesn't really apply for the OP since he wants a truck) and that is when there is new technology. For cars like the Leaf, the Volt, the Prius, where they are the new crop of plug in hybrid the tech is moving faster than the finance agreements, leasing makes a ton of sense because by the time the lease is up the new car is significantly better than the last one. Why it makes sense with those cars is for a certain type of owner they reduce operating costs by close to the amount of the payment so it almost works out to be a "free car" by the time it is all said and done. Also the incentives on those cars are huge, and are accessible even to lessees.

Some high level thoughts, I am sure others can fill in with the details. The basic concept behind a lease is that you are renting a car long term. You are basically paying for the use and the depreciation on a new vehicle for using it for a few years. The Leasing company guesses as to how much the car will be worth at the end (residual value) and factors the depreciation into your payment and down payment. You are restricted to a certain mileage and pay for when you go over and are financially responsible for any loss of value (like your kid throwing up in the back seat and making the car smell like crap the rest of it's life). In practice it works just like a finance agreement, in fact they will still do a credit check and there will be a % based finance charge (like the interest rate on a loan). Often you will put money down (usually about $2K, maybe more depending on how expensive it gets), and negotiate terms and payments with the dealer. Often dealers will focus on the low monthly payment and roll other fees into either the down or the end of the lease - don't get distracted by this, make sure you review everything you are paying for. Some leases will have a provision that allows you to buy the truck at the end, others do not. Make sure you know which you have. this is a term you can negotiate, same as service at the dealer, and other things associated with use of the truck. Don't just trust the dealer's finance group. You can get your own financing if the terms are better. Dealers make money in leases by leasing you the car at MSRP and then pocketing any holdbacks and incentives the mfg offers them so don't expect to get a "deal" on a low msrp. This doesn't mean you can't get deals on other things like services the dealer offers or accessories, just there isn't going to be much room to negotiate on the price of the car. If your vehicle is worth more than the residual value at the end, and the lease is the kind where the dealer retains the car for resale, you can often use that "credit" toward another car from the same dealer - most people don't realize this and they leave money on the table turning in a car at the end of the lease. Do leases make financial sense? maybe for some, but generally they are not a great deal for the consumer. If you are currently paying a car note plus expensive repairs then a lease might reduce your loss to just the car note amount because it is a new vehicle and you seldom own them beyond the warranty. However, the smartest money is to take care of your vehicle and keep it for the same amount of time more than your finance purchase agreement was for. So for example if you financed a silverado for 5 years, keeping it an extra 5 years (for a total of 10) allows you to save back most of the money you spent on financing the vehicle, provided the vehicle needs only minimal repairs in 10 years. If you own a mini cooper you probably don't want to own it for 10 years, but if it is a honda civic maybe even stretch it to 15 years. The thing people point to on a lease is that you are just paying for use of a new car, expensive use compared to the marketplace, and you don't own an asset at the end. If you own your own business or use your vehicle primarily for your employment it makes more sense to lease because of the tax deductions you can take. does that answer your questions?

without searching that old thread, didn't you complaint it was too much power to DD? You are newly single, living in a bachelor pad making a grown ass man wage...It's time for the mid-life crisis mobile. 911 Porsche, used Ferrari, become a lambro, something stupid. I hear there are crazy cheap lease deals on hellcats..... just make sure it is bright red.

you had the S4....and you kept it for like 3 months.

I feel like this is a theme with flat engines. Didn't Aircooleds have this problem as well as pulling the studs from the block? I know some Airhead beemers get bore scoring as well.

Forgot to mention this event got moved from 4/29 to 5/13 due to weather. 5-8pm Saturday night. check the facebook page for more details.

oh the budget is $40-90K now? https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/6083739684.html https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/6124169890.html https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/6094910128.html

on the 911, the 996 concerns are IMS bearing, which if the car has high mileage is usually not an issue. Failure rate was less than 10% on cars but the whole thing has people scared away because ims failure = complete engine failure. The fix for the IMS bearing is $2K by the way and then you never think about it again. here is a 996 PPI discussion: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/670938-what-to-watch-out-for-in-996-ppi.html Honestly I know a couple of people who have high mileage 911s and they aren't scared of them at all. It's an amazingly quality built automobile. The 1999 models are the last of cable throttles and people prefer them to drive by wire. Also the lightest chassis. The interior quality is kinda shit for how expensive the car is but still light years ahead of a same year hyundai. By the way Cabriolets are much cheaper generally than coupes. I got offered privately a yellow 911 cabriolet stick for $15K with 80K miles on it (and the IMS bearing already done) and I think the guy still has it. If you come to cars and coffee I'll introduce you to the seller as he is usually there. I don't know if you follow Tyler hoover on Auto Trader but he bought a 996 911 with 243,000 miles (he dubbed it Apollo 911 since it had more miles than a trip to the moon) and he has been documenting it online. Recently the car just started knocking and he thinks he blew the engine....after he flogged it on a dyno, at the drag strip, on a road course/autocross, and with a couple long road trips with it. And I think he was being a jackass beating on it when the engine went: http://www.autotrader.com/car-video/i-bought-the-cheapest-porsche-911-in-the-usa-6-month-ownership-report-263093 on the M5 - well it's a beemer so expensive to fix. the usual issues are cooling system and suspension. In addition these are the usual suspects with any e39: MAF and intake boots 4 rotors/pads Blown Tranny ABS module Headlight adjusters Cooling system Window Regulators Suspension the worst. Tires Alternator CCV job Spark Plugs/boots/coils O2 sensors Fuel Filter Fan clutch / Fan / pulleys Otherwise they will go 200k. my father has a neighbor with a 2002 m5 that has close to 230k on it now. BMW used to build cars that literally went 300K easily (like mercedes). The E30 3 series (1984-1992) and E34 5 series (1989-1996) are the literal last of these cars, however the E36 (1992-1999) and E39 (1997-2004) still have a lot of these high mileage durability, it's just the sensors and electronics that give them trouble. It's a pretty straight forward car to work on for the home mechanic, a little German (read: sadistic) in how some things are laid out but I had a buddy that did a head gasket on one on a street in brooklyn so....not the worst.

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I am going to ignore your turbo-4 or v8 requirements because they are...well...limiting: Can you stretch it to $15K?: https://cleveland.craigslist.org/ctd/6120760877.html This could be a fun little budget bomb, not fast but really really well balanced: https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/6123324066.html be a nice sleeper but I get the feeling that after an EVO all other turbo AWD cars are meh: https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/6122849446.html Prices have gone down on these: https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6114252745.html because you don't like miatas: https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/6083208278.html https://huntington.craigslist.org/cto/6113269573.html https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/6123445877.html

Dat Caviler digital dash:

Neat, a Lincoln Mark V Coloma Pickup. Made by the Caribou Motor Company in Rosemead, California. Supposedly they made 12 of them and they cost about $30K in 1977 money (about $94,000 in today's money - take that Lincoln blackwood).

does anybody else love the movie "mystery men"? https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6116478026.html

yes...but oh those smokey burn out, wheel standing, overpowered and underchassis-ed, moments right before death. Totally. Worth. It. because it is so janky it's awesome. Plus it's like the 60's version of an ls swapped RX7.

https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/6119015348.html LO effing L

They have been in bankruptcy for a while now. The Sporting goods/outdoor market is kind of fickle at the moment with some other closures in 2016, Only Cabelas and Field and Stream seem to be doing well. Even Dick's is kinda struggling at the moment. As a general rule "Liquidation sales" are a terrible deal for consumers. The time to have bought was their last big sale right before bankruptcy. here's an article as to why Liquidation sales suck: https://consumerist.com/2017/04/14/reminder-liquidation-sales-offer-terrible-deals-bad-return-policies/ and another on how to still get a good deal out of one: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/7-ways-to-navigate-a-liquidation-sale-1.aspx

Someone brought an Evora to CCC a long time ago, that they let me sit in. It was comfy once you got into it, but if you are over 5'11" getting in and out is a chore.

some days I really miss the 1980's street freaks. Tunnel Rams, Candy paint, chrome mud flaps, side-pipes, chrome cragar s/s wheels, it's like a time capsule. Don't know why his caps lock is stuck...probably the same reason why he hasn't driven it: https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6072147190.html Bonus street freak: https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/6060147185.html outstanding.