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03.16.2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. The new 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon’s distinctive “staged” exhaust note is the focus of the newest teaser video, “No Pills,” unveiled March 16 at http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com. This week’s release couldn’t be more fitting of Dodge’s “If you know, you know” tagline, because “if you know” you will hear extreme performance, but those who don’t will think something is wrong with the engine. Fans can hear for themselves by downloading a ringtone of the Demon’s exhaust note directly from http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com or from Apple iTunes. The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon’s unique exhaust note is the result of an advanced torque reserve launch system – the first ever designed for a drag race application on a production car. What is torque reserve? In plain English, it lets more air flow through the engine before launch, allowing for increased supercharger rpm without torque overwhelming the brakes and spinning the rear tires. In the Challenger SRT Demon, torque reserve kicks in when Launch Mode is active and engine rpm is greater than 1,000. Torque reserve does two things: It closes the bypass valve on the supercharger, “prefilling” the supercharger It manages fuel flow to cylinders and changes spark timing. To balance engine rpm and torque, the Challenger SRT Demon’s powertrain controller will briefly cut fuel flow to selected cylinders. This creates the noticeable change in the exhaust tone. The controller also advances or retards the ignition timing to fine-tune the engine rpm/torque balance With torque reserve managing the engine output, the supercharged HEMI® engine can build boost pressure before leaving the starting line and reach maximum boost pressure quicker, taking full advantage of the SRT Demon’s increased weight transfer and increased contact patch drag radials to reduce 60-foot times. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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A year ago I purchased MBLY around $34 and sold for a 25% gain. Today they got bought by Intel for ~$15.3 billion and are at $61 in premarket. FML, I should have held out for long term like I posted here. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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The Nitto's are specially designed for the Demon, not an off-the-shelf tire. It also has to remain street legal. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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I looked back at Hellcat.org and it looks like a lot of 10.70-10.80's from people who claim to be stock with drag tires. There are cars in the 9's, one listed his mods as a lower pulley, cat delete, driveshaft, drag radials, E85, and a tune. He ran 9.97@135. Consider those mods and realize that even though the Demon will have cats, it will have a larger S/C, pushing more boost, better gearing, better S/C cooling, higher flow intake, and a race gas tune. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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I think it says 0-100 in 6.3, but on a different page it says 0-100 in 6.03. The 1/8 mile time is also much faster than 10.5 in the 1/4, and there's no way it only gains 4 mph between the two unless the driver lifted. It also shows A:F as 13.75 stoic, which is only about E15, not race fuel. I would not take these numbers as gospel, since they don't add up. It also shows it launched with a peak acceleration of almost 1.5G's. If it launched that hard, ran that 1/8 mile time/mph, then it's not a 10.5 car, and it's not making 757 HP, although that number comes up multiple times in this video. Stock Hellcat's on drag radials run 10.5. Also, the page shows a reaction time of 1.5 sec. If that was included in the ET... On AllPar a typical reliable source says 9.66 was the number he was told in the summer, and said later was told the time dropped and had approached 8's. Other things confirmed in this video are the Line Lock and fast cool down feature of the S/C. This has been talked about on AllPar for a while, where they are cooling the I/C coolent with the A/C system. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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I can't comment on future product. Trackhawk will be a model name, so it's not tied to any engine package at this point, so any future use of the Trackhawk is open to the baddest Jeep SRT there will be at the time. Mike Manley has said that the Hellcat-powered Trackhack, based on the current WK2 platform will debut at New York. When WK2 is replaced who knows what will happen. I think you've seen that CAFE standards are killing most large engines, and even now the Hellcat is pretty unique. IMO, get them while you can and hold on to them. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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I'll take that bet. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Bingo. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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More information... 2018 Challenger SRT Demon / ADR Wide Body - 6.2L HEMI Supercharged V-8 (More Horsepower and Torque) - 8-Speed Auto Transmission w/ Paddle Shifters (8HP90) ONLY TRANSMISSION CHOICE - Illuminated Air-Catcher Headlamps - Standard Challenger Based SRT392 Rear Spoiler - Widebody Kit (Similar To The 2015 Dodge Challenger GT AWD Concept One) New: Drag Mode Feature On SRT Performance Page New: Special Drag Racing Settings For Shift Points In Transmission New: Nitto 315/40R18 Drag Radial Tires New: 18"X11.0" Forged Aluminum Wheels New: 3.09 Axle Ratio New: Limited Edition numbered dash plaque New: More than 200lbs lighter than SRT HELLCAT New: Line Lock Feature Added New: Upgraded Prop Shaft New: Upgraded Differential Housing New: Upgraded 41-Spline Half Shafts New: Launch Assist Feature New: Racing Fuel Feature New: Four-Point Harness Bar Mounting Point (Bar Available Through Speedlogix) New: 35% Lower Rate Front Springs & 28% Lower Rate Rear Springs New: 75% Lower Rate Hollow Front Sway Bar & 44% Lower Rate Rear Sway Bar New: Bilstein Adaptive Damping Shocks Tuned For Drag Racing New: 18% Increase In Converter Torque Multiplication New: 18% Increase In Rear Axle Torque Multiplication New: More Than 35% Higher Launch Force VS SRT HELLCAT New: 45 Sq. Inch “Air Grabber” Cold Air Intake New: Larger Air Box, Sealed And Ducted To Hood Scoop New: Available Cloth Seats New: ADR Package Will Include Performance Create With Goodies And Many Other Features Yet Discussed Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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There will be an AWD Hellcat revealed at the NY Auto Show. The Demon will be there too. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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And this week's reveal: This week, the newest Challenger SRT Demon teaser, “Race-hardened Parts,” unveiled March 2 at http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com, explains how the Demon's driveline is upgraded to handle these increased loads. Compared with the Challenger Hellcat, critical driveline updates include: Upgraded prop shaft increases torque capacity by 15 percent: Accomplished through the use of high-strength steel, a 20-percent increase in tube thickness and heat treated stub-shafts. Upgraded differential housing, with 30 percent increased torque capacity: Accomplished through the use of heat-treated A383 aluminum alloy and a higher strength gear set material that has been shot-peened to increase durability and reduce residual stresses. Upgraded 41-spline half shafts that deliver 20 percent increased torque capacity: Accomplished through the use of increased diameter high-strength low alloy steel and 8-ball joints that improve torque capacity while reducing operating temperatures by more than 86 degrees Fahrenheit. Then the SRT engineers went digital to isolate and resolve one of the biggest challenges to clean launches and driveline integrity – wheel hop. In simple terms, wheel hop happens when tires quickly slip and regain traction at launch, rapidly storing up and releasing energy in the driveline. These high torque spikes can quickly and severely damage driveline components – and up until now, the only solution was to back out of the throttle. Not with the Challenger SRT Demon. In a first for a factory production car, the SRT Demon’s Launch Assist uses the wheel speed sensors to watch for signs that the tires are slipping/sticking. If slip is detected, the SRT Demon’s control module momentarily reduces engine torque to maximize traction almost instantly – without the driver having to lift. Launch Assist reduces loads in the driveline from wheel hop by more than 15-20 percent, dramatically reducing component damage. And finally ... for the driver, there is a new four-point harness bar, available through Speedlogix, for use while at the track. The Dodge Challenger SRT Demon’s rear seat is deleted and mounting points are made accessible, making it easy for customers to install the bar without cutting or drilling anything in the car. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Song blows, but video is full of Hellcat's and a Demon https://youtu.be/0msAykqbWsA Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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For the 1000th time, IT'S NOT AWD! Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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P.S. some are converting 13.5 from Nm to lb-ft and claiming that's the 1/4 mile time. (9.96) Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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The drag radials all around. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Yea, they already explained that it was built so that when you buy the crate with the car, you have two sets of drag radials. The crate has two skinnies inside it, so at the track you swap the fronts and have 4 tires to rotate on the rear. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Dodge Resurrects the Demon: Teaser Video No. 7 – ‘Third Law’ "Third Law,” the seventh video in the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon pre-reveal teaser campaign, launches today Fans should visit http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com for weekly updates, to download sharable content and for a countdown to its reveal Dodge’s new ultimate performance halo to be unveiled during 2017 New York International Auto Show week Use hashtag #DodgeDemon to be a part of the next chapter in the Dodge performance story February 23, 2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat’s supercharged HEMI® produces all the power required to run quicker and faster quarter-mile ETs than its balanced suspension and tuning enable. This is because, as extreme as the Challenger SRT Hellcat is, it was always intended to strike that perfect balance between drag strip brute force, road course competence and street car civility. Anyone who has driven a Hellcat will attest that it has an incredible “personality bandwidth,” depending on how a driver configures the power level, suspension, transmission, traction and stability controls. It truly is the ultimate “do everything” muscle car. The Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, however, has a different mission. Designed to be highly competent in all drive modes and configurations, the SRT Demon is made to absolutely dominate in Drag Mode. In the coming weeks, Dodge will share more of the Drag Mode attributes. But this week, the focus is on how Drag Mode, in combination with the SRT Demon’s all-new suspension, maximizes weight transfer, traction and control … because burnouts are fun, but they don’t win races. The “old school” solution was pretty simple – get the quickest reacting springs upfront, the softest rebound front shocks that wouldn’t restrict the springs' reaction, remove any restrictions (sway bar) and increase the compression of the rear shocks. This combination resulted in extremely efficient weight transfer, but provided minimal lateral stability in the event that directional corrections were required. The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon combines the best of both mechanical and electronic tuning to deliver maximum launch force while still maintaining precision directional control. The SRT Demon is the first-ever factory production car with mechanical/electronic drag-race-specific suspension tuning. The “Third Law” teaser video, released February 23, helps illustrate the benefit of the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon’s new Drag Mode mechanical/electronic suspension tuning. Hardware: 35 percent lower rate front springs/28 percent lower rate rear springs 75 percent lower rate hollow front sway bar/44 percent lower rate rear sway bar Drag-tuned Bilstein Adaptive Damping Shocks Software: Rear = F/F and Front = F/S F/F – F/S maintained @ wide open throttle (WOT) F/F – F/F < WOT Traction control disabled/ESC maintained Result: 13.5=575@500 Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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True. Personally, I think 815 refers to ft-lbs of torque, considering this video is titled "Multiplication" and the press release is all about torque multiplication. The stock Hellcat puts down 650 ft-lbs. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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From the press release: Sticky Nitto drag race tires have twice as much grip as an SRT Hellcat. Higher transmission stall speed and 3.09 rear gear multiply the torque 18% each. You get: 35% higher launch force than the SRT Hellcat. The SRT Demon digs in its claws. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Stick to a 14+ since it got several improvements, including the 8.4" UConnect and 8 speed trans. Must have options for me would be the 8.4, heated leather seats, and AWD (although MI winters haven't been bad lately). I would prefer if it had Rear Blind Spot Warning with Rear Cross Path Detection and Adaptive Cruise Control would be nice too. My job doesn't expose me to warranty numbers, so I'm not sure of problems to look out for. I can say that everyone I know that has one is very happy with it and it's probably one of the best vehicles we make. As I said earlier, it won a Car and Driver SUV comparison last year, so I don't think it's a biased opinion. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Yeah, the R/T's only come with a HEMI, but there is a model called "Heat" which was changed to "GT" this past year that gets the R/T looks with a V6. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Are they really that bad? Are all the cars with Whipple 2.9's running built motors? I see people claiming 600rwhp with bolt-on kits. There are 1000hp 6.4's running Whipples with built motors. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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I will still be surprised if the BASE price is over $100k. This is the company that sells the base Viper for $85k, and 700 HP Hellcat's for $60k. I'm sure if you load up the options it will get up there though. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk
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Allpar rumors claim the passenger seat is optional and it has a quick release for removal at the track. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk