Science Abuse

Totaly mee, exspecialy the communikashuns part, and the part about my way with words part.

ahh crap, how do I edit that out of my subject line? Bullocks, fuckit, nevermind, I'm done crying. Hey OSUGT, you guys want a 51k mile 2002 Fontier Desert Runner with a 19k mile 2003 Xterra engine in it? Has new belts. Looking to liquidate and get into a family car.

Indeed it did fix the problem, the same as an industrial pile driver pounds a nail. The problem could have been fixed with a few turns of the tensioner bolt, located right next to the PS pump, and suprisingly easily accessable from the top.

Long story short; She's hosed, she signed for the work and blindly knodded to whatever the service writer said, just like 90% of people do when they take thier new cars is. She was sold parts she didn't need and was charge entirely too much for the labor to install them. I am very disatisfied with the service at Buckey Nissan North. It was Nissan North. I understand the position of the dealership in many respects, I've worked in service, myself. I also know that a tech may notice one thing wrong, and a service writer will tell the costomer somethng different. tech; The belt is loose S'W; Needs new belts tech; The tires are about half worn S'W; Needs tires and an alignment. tech; The brakes are half worn S'W; Needs new pads and rotors Tech; Tire's got a nail in it S'W; needs 4 new tires These are conversations that I was actualy part of. They may well be stand up guys, but at the end of the day, their job is to sell service. Maybe he saw the odometer at 51,000 and figured it was just time, not knowing it was a new engine. Who knows. What I do know is that these belts did not need changed, and I challenge anyone here to proove otherwise. Being a mechanical inspetor myself, I know that if you look at anything long enough you will find something wrong with it, but I'm talking about neccesity. My personal experience with them came a few months ago when the truck needed an engine. I stopped by after work and stood in front of the service counter for 10+ mins watching employees look and me from the rear bays and not doing anything. I was standing there actualy prepared to spend thousands of dollars, but I ended up spending 10 mins being ignored.

"Soviet government murdered 20 million of its own people" There are varying estimates, I'd go with the highball myself. Technicaly most were "arrested". They just died while working in the gulags...totaly different then being murdered.

yeah I know I know. I'm not going to bother. I'd like to chat with that service writer none the less. "What you think everyone that comes here has money to blow on frivelous repairs? Especialy during the holidays?" It was close to home and was simple enough. I thought I'd just have her take it there to find out what was wrong, then we'd go from there. If the PS pump was bad, I didn't want a failure goin down when she was 10mi from home.

Yes, you can. You just need one of those sit-down benches and means to hold your torso upright w/o using your back. More effort then its worth.

It's so much easier. Use to be ya needed a standing army of at least a couple hundred thousand soldier to kill off a million enemies. Now you just need good networking skills. I blame Whitey

Cool. You got your welding capabilities up and running? We're going to reset his ECu, if the light comes back we'll pop in the new O2 sensor. If that doesn't do it, he'll need a cat.

A freind of mine needs one for his 4cyl 98 Accord, and fuck a $250 OEM replacement. There's got to be a $100-$120 alternative some where. Any ideas?

From the Jan. 06 edition of National Geographic: " More than 50 million people were systematically murdered in the past 100 years---the century of mass murder: From 1915 to 1923 Ottoman Turks slaughtered up to 1.5 million Armenians. In mid-century the Nazis liquidated six million Jews, three million Soviet POWs, two million Poles, and 400,000 other "undesirables". Mao Zedong killed 30 million Chinese, and the Soviet government murdered 20 million of its own people. In the 1970's the communist Khmer Rouge killed 1.7 million of their fellow Camodians. In the 1980's and early 1990's Saddam Hussein's Baath Party killed 100, 000 Kurds. Rwanda's Hutu-led military wiped out 800, 000 members of the Tutsi minority in the 1990's. Now there is genocide in Sudan's Darfur region." "In sheer numbers, these and other killings make the 20th century the bloodiest period in human history" Worse yet, these numbers do not include millions more who were killed by legitimate acts of war. Also, the article contains a table which clearly shows that the vast majority of genocide has been committed since World War 2 ended. Thank god we live in a civilized society! :wtg:

Its 7:02 and I'm wondering what the fuck is going on here.

None taken, and noted in triplicate. And berto, yeah, that happened as a result of her being responceble for engine maintenance....so it got none. I've been looking after the new engine, and I can tell a bad belt from a good one. My tantrum last time came as a result of her not telling me she never changed the oil untill we were in the shop talking to the service rep. Most embarassing and humliating moment of my life, the rep was kind enough not to laugh in my face. But that was Germain, in hind sight I'd rather she had taken it there, since I've dealt with the shop and know them to be good folk. In this case, the engine has been under the scruteny of car people, these belts are fine. I haven't even brought up the $116 in labor for under two hours work. She showed up, it was diagnosed, repaired, and even washed in an hour and thirty eight minutes, less then an hour of actual work. I'm deliberating whether on not to actualy waste my time, considering I know we wont see a dime back unless they feel nice. She signed the work order. It just pisses me off, you should not have to put forth effort into not getting ripped off. I'm not paying for it.

If I recall correctly, and employee of Buckey Nissan works here, so I thought I'd run this through here before I went and talked to the service manager. For those that know the sorted history, same truck, but different circumstances. 2002 Frontier with a 19k mile 2003 X terra engine in it, fresh out of Buckeys shop. Elena had been noticing a lack of power steering, so I told her to take it some where and have it looked at, at her earliest convenience. She took it to Nissan North, and I said "have them look at it, and once we know whats wrong, we'll compare prices to Scott". So I call her at about 2 today, an hour after her scheduled drop off and ask her how its going. "Fine, they've just finished the truck". "Finished the truck?" Turns out they told her it was a bad belt, and they just weren't spinning to pump when it was called apon. From what I saw of the car, that made perfect sense....accept for the "bad belt" part. Scott and I have both been waching that engine, neither of us noticed anything wrong with the belts. The tensioner may have been out of adjustment, but not the belt. I tell her to be sure and get the old belt, dont leave there without those parts. The problem was withthe power steering, involving one belt, they changed all three and charged her a grand total of $184, $116 labor. The belts are right here in front of me, no checking, no hardness, not even greasy. Still stiff yet supple as they should be. I'm going to be having words with some one about this. Who?

Carbon fibre bits and its still 4100 lbs!? Does anyone hire engineers anymore? Where the fuck is all that weight? Are they going by the 80's Jag 12cyl formula of "Hey, lets make a decent engine with decent power and put it in a car that cant possibly move fast!".?

I'll give free lessons on reading the verier scale.

Can a formula vee realy be considered a car? http://www.1302super.com/shrike_bigvee.jpg I do it with windows.

Coltboostin fits in well here. On a side note, yes, we do have the anti gravity mod. We're further south, therefore it effects us slightly less. Why do you think space programs try to launch close the equator?

The guy that designed that car has probably been dead for quite some time. Some talenless hack in Detroit just took the old car and "modernized" it... i.e. he took some sandpaper to the clay model. It has the same problem as the new mustang. Why do current "designers" all feel that a cars door and fender panels have to be a mile high?

http://thewoodomain.net/files/11/revised.jpg Worst chop evar, but I think it conveys what I'm getting at. Bring that wheel up and loos some of that big ass pannel.

Beat up some old man and take his goldwing crap. Have ya tried Iron Pony? I'd think they would have swag.

ohh the drama! Cool otherwise.

+277307308307407409 Where does everyone get theirs? I'm using Torrent Spy mostly, and truthfully it kinda sucks.

O Rilly? So it was a Vauxhall concept that GM liked and Opel didn't? That's gotta be the first time that happened.

I'd think you should be able to have it done for $2g or less, depending on what prep work is neccesary.