Lol bitch tits. If you got your shit dialed in and know what your doing you'll never get them. It's only the retards who get on the sauce not knowing shit then don't take any anti estros, pct etc that leads to them getting gyno and losing their gains. OP, just lower your calorie intake and lift heavy. The weight will drop off. No need to take a bunch of gimmick no help products that gnc or other places push. You are just shitting money down the toilet. Literally.