Dr. Pomade

In the US, you are probably right because the supra mostly went unnoticed by the American public.

 

If it went unnoticed, then I'm not sure how it can qualify as a supercar. You can't help but notice a supercar...

 

Come out to CCC this summer and we will walk around together and ask people. I'll take your bet, the stakes are who buys lunch.

 

Sounds great, you're on.

 

Is there such a thing as a "supra only" meet? How about we go to a Supra forum and ask the same question and see if it causes the same debate. My money is on that it will.

 

I think there are always car-specific meets, be it a Supra, a 300Z, an 03/04 Cobra, Corvette, Porsche, etc. I'd be shocked if there wasn't one. Anyway, maybe we can have someone sign up to a Supra forum, pretend to be a 5th grader doing a homework assignment or something, and have them ask the forum to name 5 of the top supercars of the 1990s.

 

What's at stake is whether people are ready to give the Japanese their due for making really far out, weird, and tech advanced performance cars when in their time weren't recognized as such because of lingering anti-Japanese sentiment left over from the 1980's, and Japanese industrialization of America and the shrinking of the american car industry. how long are we going to allow linger 1980's xenophobia and anti Japanese propaganda color how we look at Japanese cars of the past?

 

This is a very well-crafted, eloquent argument. I totally agree. However, that's not what we're debating, is it? We're debating whether the Supra is/was a supercar. If the poll was "Can we give the Japanese their due for making cool/fast/awesome/unique cars?" then I think most people would answer "yeah, sure." So, maybe you're trying to sell us something we'd more readily buy if you packaged it differently.

Great thread. Won't read again because there are too many words.

 

If you stopped anyone in the 1990s and told them to name 5 supercars, I bet no one would say Supra.

 

If you stopped anyone on the street today and told them to name 5 supercars, I would bet a large sum of money no one says Supra.

 

Go to a random car meet and ask car people to name some supercars, I bet no one says Supra.

 

Go to a Supra meet, ask same thing, and I still bet no one says Supra.

 

While I am still betting on stuff, I bet no one used the term "supercar" in their response to seeing the Supra commercial during the Super Bowl.

 

Sure, give me a list of criteria, use some nuanced definitions, and throw in a little bit of wordsmithing and I'll find myself agreeing that a Supra (or whatever other kind of sports car you want) seems to meet the criteria of a "supercar." That same kind of word play and fancy talk leaves me agreeing that somehow a hot dog is a sandwich when I know it isn't.

 

The Supra isn't a supercar.

Consider Sam Demeter. Top notch.

 

SamDemeterConstruction.com

 

I will let him know you are interested in a quote.

I’m out currently. Plain City was like a sleety/freezy rain consistency, but not much of it. Downtown area - raining, but temp is at 33/34 degrees, so just rain.

 

I know this was very helpful so you’re welcome.

You said danger and I said “grave danger?” and you said “is there any other kind?”

 

I know what I said.

 

I can have the court reporter read back what you said.

 

I KNOW WHAT I SAID

Saints are pretty much an Ohio State all star team.

PS - lame for Tate to talk trash and then immediately bounce.

 

PPS - how is it foul play for Fields to message his sister? Serious question.

Two IPA’s in and 97 percent of this thread would be dry humping his sister. Let me guess, Kate Upton is fat and Lady Gaga looks like a guy.

And where the F is Lauren?

 

Dude, seriously. At this point, just don't come back. I'm not sure how you mitigate it. Like I'm a second chance guy, but this is ridiculous. Though, he really does need to return just to take the verbal beatings he's earned, which will include embracing that trainwreck of a hillbilly football squad with a gimpy QB that got exposed when they had to actually play a team with a defensive pulse.

It was fantastic watching Alabama get dismantled. Please be sure to remind every Alabama fan of this every time you get the chance. Remember when in 2006 and Ohio State was getting "best ever" talk and then got manhandled by Florida and then we never heard the end of it from SEC honks? Well, guess who's turn it is to eat all the delicious crow. All of it, Tide/SEC, every last morsel. Yummy yum.

 

I'll play Alabama and Georgia every year. Those teams do not scare me. Of course, Alabama will be #2 next year and Georgia will be #3. All aboard that hype train, gentlemen.

 

Clemson, well, I owe you an apology. I thought you weren't all that good and I was way wrong there. For whatever reason, I can't be mad at Clemson for being good - even when they just repeatedly own Ohio State. Not happy about it, but not pissed about them being good, not like I'm pissed when I see an SEC team win the NC. The ACC might suck, but Clemson surely doesn't.

 

I am calling Ohio State and Clemson in the title game next year.

 

Clemson 28

Ohio State 38

 

LSU and Texas are the other 2 playoff teams.

 

Write it down.

And I still have 4 Memorial tickets on hold for him.

Unacceptable.

Did anyone ever notice that turbo is misspelled?

 

Though I think a compelling case could be made that, in fact, they made a Tubro.

I'm still pissed that Eric Crouch won the Heisman over Rex Grossman in 2001. What a fucking joke that was

 

That was Nebraska getting credit for shit they did in the 1990s.

 

It's the same reason why Alabama has won several Heisman's they haven't really deserved - they are just cashing in on the overall success of the program. Pick the best player from the best team and chances are that's who is getting the Heisman. It's dumb. And, again - like most important decisions in college football - a popularity contest.

It's a shame that Haskins didn't win the Heisman. Not to say that Murray shouldn't have won it (I think he should), it's just that Haskins was unfortunate enough to have this kind of season when (a) Ohio State was filled with scandal for much of the year and (b) Tua and Murray both had the seasons they did in the same season. In any other year, Haskins might have been a runaway winner.

 

P.S. Lauren Shady is now officially Lauren's new name.

LOLOL

I've always thought Michigan saying they need to hire a "Michigan man" always sounded like something a bunch of hicks would say. It sounds stupid. The same applies with Ohio State's situation.

 

Oh, Irony Police Infraction #1: Michigan has their "Michigan man" - how well is that working out for them?

 

And, Irony Police Infraction #2: the guy who coined that phrase was from Ohio.

Fool me once, shame on Lauren.

 

Fool me twice, shame on me.

 

Fool everyone 118 times, shame on Lauren.

I'm fine with a 5-loss conference champion getting in. If they made it to the conference championship and won it, then they deserve it. I remember mediocre Giants' teams squeaking into the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl each time. At least it's objective criteria that's being used.

 

6 spots, 5 conference champs, 1 at-large wildcard. The wildcard allows the human element to stay involved (because apparently we need that in college football to determine championships). ND can join a conference and get an auto bid or just chance it every year and hope they get the wildcard selection.

Just heard someone make a great point on 97.1:

 

- everyone agrees the B10 is a much better conference than B12, yet the B12 champ gets in and the B10 champ doesn’t and they have identical records.

I think something has to be done to make it more - not less - objective. Currently every single NC we have had in CFB is dependent either fully or partially on opinions.

 

Think about that for a second. Champions are determined by opinions. Can you imagine this flying in, say, the NFL? Think about how dumb of a concept this is. Yet somehow we are cool with it.

 

I like 6 team playoff, conference champs get automatic bid and 1 wildcard picked by committee. At least then it’s more objective.

 

In that scenario I’m fine with ND not joining a conference - which means they accept the risk of not having an automatic bid each year.

Georgia has a more difficult schedule than Ohio State. Of course that’s based on rankings and those are subjective. That being said, Georgia’s played a more difficult schedule.

 

Georgia’s defense is better statistically than Ohio State’s.

 

Beyond that, I don’t know what the committee is basing their ranking on. I wouldn’t have Georgia ahead of Ohio State.

 

I also think Georgia playing Alabama close resulted in diluting support for Ohio State. It’s almost as if them hanging around “stole” some votes that could have gone to Ohio State.

How do you guys think Tate Martell will play in the Rose bowl?

 

I expect a lot of RPO plays that involve him routinely not exercising the option to either pass or hand off followed by a lot of generally or explicitly negative results.

Oh well, we can go put a beating on Washington in the Rose Bowl and continue to play the part of mid-2000s USC: lose to a stupid team that derails chances of playing for championship, get hot toward the end of the season, and then destroy opponent in bowl game.