It's all a moot point now anyway since I bought my roommate's 360. I want to get MW2 because the online is sweet, but the first game I get will be Forza 3. I played UFC for 5 hours last night and it's awesome. Madden 10 is great also, but I need to get Live so I can get the roster update.
Really? Nice to know, I hadn't heard of Pure, I just assumed it sucked lol.
And yes, that's a good point, after thinking about it for a minute it would be stupid to get the refurb when a brand new system can be had for $50 more.