yea the old ve pump is alot harder to make power than the p pump . what i can tell hp is about right for the ve pump vs tq , about the only way i can get anymore out of it is go with alot bigger turbo and then it will be harder to use it as a tow pig with that big of a turbo thats why i went with a HX35/HX40 setup , plus i would have to swap a p pump in it to be streetable .