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Thoughts? http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/us/first-female-navy-candidates-seal-trnd/index.html G.I. Jane/s in real life

That's how we were taught to write the date in the military. 24July2017 is how we would write it

I hope it's real. Who knows though

Kerry even made a craigslist post about wanting a scrap pile Porsche https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/wanted-porsche-air-cooled/6210764923.html

Scrap metal prices go up?

My buddy bought a clean 2000 Trans Am with full exhaust and some other bolt ons with higher miles (140k) for $4500. You could definitely find a nice F-Body under $10k. You can't really only want to spend $10k and get something "fun" that also has lower miles. He's gotta budge somewhere

nice save cool pics! I love those Aventadors

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How did your LC9 get stolen?

Red? I saw it too coming down Riverside yesterday

Kerry: The official decider on who's ignorant and who isn't

Well we're just going to keep going around in circles here. You continue to call me dumb and ignorant because I don't see your point of view from a socialist mentality. That's exactly what's wrong with Liberals today. They refuse to understand there are different viewpoints and are quick to call everyone dumb or ignorant that doesn't think the way they do. You know this is true. That is why Trump won. Everyone got sick of people like yourself. You say people in their 20s don't have the knowledge and that might be true, what's worse is someone like yourself who does have the knowledge but still thinks the way a 21 year old liberal college student does. Get off your high horse.

I literally quoted the sources I pulled those negatives from. So the contrary would be, giving them handouts makes them work harder? Yeah, I don't think so. If you go into a bears natural territory and start feeding it, what's it going to do? It won't continue to hunt when it knows it has a free handout. Human nature is the same. Yet, somehow your logic is that handouts will get people out of poverty? To be honest, I'm only playing devils advocate with the flat tax thing here. I personally believe there shouldn't be an income tax at all. Sales/Consumption tax only. You are taxed on what you buy. Wealthy people buy more and spend more so they will naturally be taxed more. Obviously we will have to raise sales and consumption tax. This actually goes more in line with yours and Kerry's ideaology unless you aren't for budget cuts and keeping jobs at the IRS. Then you would be dumb not to legally change your name to Greg if you really wanted a free taco. Yes and the articles I provided were less biased than yours. So what's the magic age? I see just as many people in their 30s and 40s out protesting ridiculous things as I do people in their 20s. But yes, the Bernie supporters I encountered were in their 20s. They are morons. Why do taxes have to be so complex? I'm going to keep going back to this. You are responsible for your life. Making a tax code simpler will, 1 make it more difficult or impossible for the rich to dodge taxes and, 2 force EVERYONE to pay into the system. I see where we differ. I understand your point that $10,000 is less important to a person who makes $100,000 than $1,000 for someone who makes $10,000. My argument to that is, why are you only making $10,000? It's hard for me to understand when I see people on a daily basis that bust their ass for the money they make and then people who are on Govt assistance who work 15 hours a week and then people like yourself are telling me that I need to believe that they need more handouts simply because they aren't capable. Maybe I believe in people more than you do. Not everyone needs a college degree, in fact, I think that's a very bad route for a lot of people. You can go to a Union Hall and go through an apprenticeship for 4 years, have a full-time job and get paid training, and upon completion you can make over $20/hour and get continuous raises up into the high 30s/hour with available overtime. This doesn't just apply to Union jobs, but a lot of jobs out there. People don't want tot work. You believe that the rich are responsible to take care of the poor, where as I believe everyone is responsible to take care of themselves. Handouts don't work. They keep people who are capable to make a better life for themselves in poverty.

Okay, nobody will answer my question directly but sure I'll answer yours. Proposed negatives of a flat tax: 1. It penalizes low-income earners No, it gives them more initiative to work hard and create a better life for themselves (yes, it's possible even if you're born in extreme poverty). Everyone should pay into the system if supposedly everyone is going to reap the benefits of the system. 2. It eliminates the IRS Why is that a bad thing? Budget cuts right away! Before you get all emotional about people losing jobs, the majority of them will find their way right back in the work force. 3. It benefits the rich Maybe, but the alternative is punishing the rich and to circle back around to the first argument, everyone is paying an "equal" percentage and the left is all about equality until it doesn't benefit them. Here's a good example. Here's the source I pulled from http://connectusfund.org/list-of-9-main-pros-and-cons-of-the-flat-tax Here's another I read http://smallbusiness.chron.com/pros-cons-flat-tax-4210.html

Then you don't know what goes through the mind of a Bernie supporter. I know quite a few, more than I'd like to know but it is what it is and their literal justification for increasing taxes on the top 1% is "They don't need all of that money." I've heard it straight from the horses mouth and there's no way that idealogy is limited to just the Bernie supporters I've interacted with.

I guess I just don't understand why some people truly believe that the more money a person works for, the higher percentage they should be taxed. I mean, I guess I do understand where they're coming from (He has more than me! I want what he has!) but I just don't understand how that falls in line with the fundamental values of our country. Personally, I don't give a shit about abortion as long as it's done preferably in the 1st trimester. I agree with you about society taking on the burden of a likely, uneducated, poor, unhealthy child that becomes an adult with the same issues. Do whatever you want with your body, just don't ask me to pay a dime for it. You fucked up, you fix it. Rape cases are a special circumstance and I'm not against funding to provide abortions and counseling for rape victims.

Okay so your issues are with the tax loopholes not a flat tax. A graduated tax code isn't complicated and neither is a flat tax. And you guys keep putting words in my mouth. Did I ever say "implement right now without some progression"? Why shouldn't everyone pay into the system? Give me some good reasons without spouting off a 4 paragraph explanation as to why that's too complicated to answer.

I figured I'd get no answer. Kerry is too busy sending insults my way instead of answering questions. Some of these questions are asked during presidential debates, they might be worded differently, but very similarly based questions. So I guess we have been asking stupid questions to our leaders this whole time! Kerry, I don't dislike you, but man you have your head way too far up your ass. You, Ben and Greg are extremely smug and arrogant, especially you and everyone here can see that except you. You want to debate, but when a question is directed at you, you just throw out insults and you want everyone to just concede that you're right? K

Are you done bashing me Mr. Kerry? Kerry, here are few simple questions I have for you. I hope you can answer them because you are an intelligent guy and these questions should be very easy for you. What are the negatives to a flat income tax? Do you think our laws should be based off of the Constitution? Do you think the Government or the people are responsible for their lives and well-being? Are the wealthy people in this country responsible for the poor people in this country? Do you think that socialism can spiral out of control and be devastating to our country and it's values? Here's the big one. Do you truly think your view is the only correct view? Please answer those simple questions, Kerry. You can ask me some questions to if you'd like. Keep them simple though, I'm ignorant

Yet, somehow you think it's logical to make the Govt even larger giving it more power and taking more power away from the people?

Why if there's incentive to get it for free from the Govt? Too fat? Don't worry, here's a handicap permit so you don't have to walk as far for the groceries that made you fat. Don't want to work? Don't worry, here's some money and a card for food. While we're at it, here's some housing for you too! Oh, and healthcare, FOR FREE! While socialists like Kerry want to punish people who actually work hard and took a huge risk to start up their own business and employ tens to thousands of people. TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM! Make them pay their fair share of 50% of their hard earned income!

Kid Rock, The Rock, Rock Bottom... It's what the future holds

WRONG and I shouldn't even have to explain myself. Free Market > Socialism It's called competition. Free market = competition = lower costs The only way the free market model would work is if every insurance company was required to be a 501©(3) not for profit charity. This would then remove the incentive to decide matters of profit v. quality in favor of profit and allow alternate revenue streams into the business model. I am not saying the government is good at running things, but the free market model doesn't work for healthcare at all where the overarching goal should be quality of care and not value of care. I'm willing to bet if the Govt completely takes over our healthcare, goodbye healthcare innovations and advances, quality of care will go down and overall health will go down. What we SHOULD be doing is incentivizing good health. Kerry, what is one of the biggest concerns right now in America in regards to healthy individuals? I will give you a hint, it involves a scale. You keep talking about how everyone should have "equal" care but not everyone should pay "equal"? Why should a 450lb woman who smokes be given the same healthcare and cost as a woman who maintains a healthy weight and works out 5 times a week? In before you create an argument based on the lowest common denominator because that's what socialists do.

Obamacare flaws... Average Obamacare rates went up 22% across the board and a lot more for a lot of middle class families. If you couldn't afford to have health insurance to begin with, guess what? Here's a hefty fine for you on top of your taxes! Many small to medium sized businesses have had to switch to a cheaper/worse plan and/or drop dental and vision coverage off their plan simply to afford medical coverage for their employees. (I've seen what we pay and it's outrageous) Many businesses have reduced employees hours from full-time to part time to evade the healthcare cost burden. I saw this first hand working in the restaurant industry prior to my current job. A lot of people and their families had to switch from their family physician because their Obamacare plan did not offer them that doctor. The deficit has increased by over $1 trillion under Obamacare Doctors and medical providers often complain about losing more money due to Obamacare (I think we've had a few in this thread actually). They are often forced to take in patients who are low income who don't pay a dime and often don't show up to their appointments because why do they care? They're not paying for it.

What is garbage about Randcare? You know what is garbage? Obamacare and everybody that's not getting it for free knows it.