Just as an FYI for some comparisons. Im shooting a 180 roundnose at around 1000-1050 FPS for subsonics out of my 308. Thats a big, heavy, blunt, bullet and at 100 yards, I get 1 inch groups. Before you all start trying to compare velocities, bullet shape, and range limits, etc, you really should learn more about ballistics and what your talking about. Dont just assume that because its a pistol round that its not good past 50 yards. Ive shot my subcompact G27 .40 at man sized steel at 100 yards and can hit them. You need to know ballistics before trying to talk ballistics. (e.g Learn how velocity, barrel twist rates, bullet ballistic coefficients, barrel length, all affect each other and the bullet performance at different distances)