we live on about 100 acres and one day our pointer came back almost dead and we found our lab torn to pieces and dead. It turns out our neighbors dobermans are never tied up i see them in my woods all the time. ive seen my dogs fight and kill a coyote and they were just a little beat up. No wild animal around here could do this to my two dogs so the next time i see these dobs on my land ill be loading my 30-06 and claiming self defense. Not to mention the neighbor didnt give two shits when we told him what happened