I understand. Reads like we just have our different definitions of limiter on the top end, because a bike not pulling speed anymore is the limiter to me because that's the bikes limit of speed. Limiter is more related to electronically limited I know that, so I should have just said "top speed limit" instead of limiter, sorry. -1/+3 is a very low top end though on an old 250 is the 2008 does 90.