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  1. I was thinking everyone approach an intersection (with traffic cam) from different directions and everyone shut off their bikes and just sit

    Na, that could cause some problems. First, I'd be afraid some 16 year old who isn't paying attention would plow us down. Secondly, its going to be 100% legal. Thirdly, I'm going to have non-bikers participate as well. I'm wanting a lot of people to participate.

  2. I'm thinking about organizing a flash mob here in columbus on Saturday Aug. 1st. Anyone interested in participating? If you don't know what a flash mob is, here are a couple of videos.

    Essentially its when a group of people go to a specific place and at the exact time they all do the same thing. Then, they all get up and continue what they were doing. Here are some examples.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iYmRyuhn9k&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMj3PJDxuo&feature=fvw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29NLOhBttxA&feature=channel

  3. Black belt in Shotokan Karate. I still train although not at a dojo. I trained for a few years at a school in Grandview.

    IMHO, each martial arts has its benefits in self defense as well as its faults. Each martial arts was developed specifically for the people who created it. For instance Brizillian Jui-jitsu was developed for fighting in Brazil where there were lots of beaches to fight upon and weapons were not used that much during fights. Krav Maga was developed by the Isreali military used for close combat street fighting. Great fighting style in close combat but not as effective if you are more than an arm's length away from your opponent. Karate and Taekwondo are great if you have some distance between you and your opponent but not as effective if the gap is closed.

    The GOOD martial arts schools will allow you to take at least one class for free before comitting to a long term deal. Go visit 5 that are close in your area and chose what fits you. It doesn't mean much even if the martial art will teach you to fly if you don't like going to class and will never show up. Find what YOU like. All of them will give you a good workout. If your main goal is to defend yourself get a Glock.

  4. The rain was a total fluke- how were they supposed to know a hurricane was gonna blow through town?:D Moving it up a few weeks won't make much difference weather-wise.

    Lizard is right - Indy blew Laguna away as far as attendance goes. Laguna has about 40,000 on race day and Indy did 97,000 or so. And that was with crap weather. SHould be up at least another 25,000 or so for next year if the weather is good.

    Indy does these events the right way - loads of things scheduled to do, etc. They have more experience than just about anywhere with large crowds for racing. Laguna sucks dog balls for traffic - took me 4 hours to just get oit of my parking spot at the '06 MotoGP there. They had like 6 portolets for the entire track, very few food vendors and dirt to sit in. Swore I'd never go back.

    Wow, didn't know that about Laguna. I've always wanted to go out there for the race but after going to Indy I'm sure I would be disappointed. I know the weather was a fluke but I'm just saying that last year it may be the weather and this year it may be the economy and maybe it'll never take off like they expected. I can't argue with what you all are saying though. Just curious to see what you all think. I would agree with Lizard that AMA would be the first to be affected but its a wait and see right about now.

  5. If you are refering to MotoGP at Indy, remember that typically, they get multiple thousands of spectators for Indy and Brickyard events. 100k of folks will look like it is empty...

    I think Indy MotoGP was pretty damn good. It blew Laguna away and seeing that the presence of all the factories and such are in CA, that's saying a lot.

    I think it will actually be better next year. The Indy folks know the system and know how to handle things concerning large crowds. If the weather is shit again, it may fall, but if it doesn't, I suspect that 150k is possible...

    It'll be a few weeks earlier next year so that could help beat the rain. Do you think that the sponsors may dry up for the lower shows such as the AMAs?

  6. Do you think a drop in ticket sales could add an additional hurdle to slow things down? This past year at Indy, there were a lot of seats not filled (mostly due to weather IMO). But I'm assuming that this upcoming year some seats will be empty because of costs. I may not be giong next year because of the cost. Its not just the cost of the ticket, but lodging/gas/food ect. too.

  7. Came accross the following article relating to NASCAR. Is Moto GP in trouble of losing its funding from companies. Before someone brings up the obvious, the Global Economy is in trouble, not just Detroit.

    Economy Putting The "Brakes" On NASCAR

    DARREN ROVELL, SPORTSBIZ, SPORTS, CNBC, CNBC.COM, BLOG, SPORTS BUSINESS

    Posted By: Darren Rovell | Sports Business Reporter

    cnbc.com | 17 Nov 2008 | 03:27 PM ET

    This post is from guest blogger Sarah Talalay:

    With the 2008 season in the books, teams across NASCAR are beginning to issue pink slips to dozens of employees. The sport will stop testing at NASCAR-sanctioned tracks next year to save teams millions of dollars.

    Sponsors have been cutting back or dropping out of the sport. Attendance at tracks was down nearly 10 percent this year. Yes, even the rapidly growing sport of stock car racing is being forced to put on the brakes.

    Industry executives are holding out hope Congress will offer financial support to Detroit's Big Three automakers this week. Team Chevy issued a desperately worded release Sunday during the Sprint Cup finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway imploring the public—and asking the media for its help—to contact their representatives in the House and Senate about economic support for automakers that supply a number of the racecars in the sport.

    "We cannot overstate the importance of this initiative!" the statement says.

    All are signs NASCAR's in trouble. No one knows for sure how deep the employee cuts will go and what else might be sacrificed. Veteran team owner Jack Roush, of Roush Fenway Racing, has a list of changes that might occur if the economy worsens. He'd encourage track owners to examine ticket prices so more fans could fill the increasingly empty seats the sport saw this year.

    White House: Help Detroit, But Not With Rescue Fund

    He says sponsorships also should be examined to be sure companies are getting a reasonable return on their investment.

    "Nobody I know of invests money or spends money that they don't expect to get a return on as a sponsorship," Roush said. "That may mean in the short-term the sponsorship values or sponsorship amounts will diminish some. If that happens, the teams will have less money to spend on their personnel and their preparation and tires and hotels."

    With that in mind, Roush said it's possible three-day events could be reduced to two days. And races might need to be shortened as well: 600-mile races to 500 miles; 500-mile races to 450 miles, he said.

    Sports Marketing Guru Tony Ponturo Leaves Anheuser-Busch

    "And maybe a limit on the number of tires you use. They're pretty much unlimited on the Cup side," Roush said. "Limiting the tires, limiting the distance of races may become the next shoes to fall. It may become necessary, but I hope they don't."

    Jim Hunter, a NASCAR spokesman who has spent more than 40 years in and around the sport, remembers when pit crews were made up of repair guys from auto dealerships, who changed tires on Sundays at the racetrack.

    "Today, we have $40,000 tire changers, that's all they do. Jack men, who handles jacks makes $40,000 or $50,000 a year, who work one day and practice during the week," Hunter said. "Could it be done without that? Absolutely ... Some sort of correction is going to occur, no doubt about that."

  8. as bush is viewed as an embarrassment for republicans, so will obama be for democrats. i hope youre happy! :thefinger:

    I am. You can talk all the mess you want. You'll still be pissed off tomorrow. :lol:

    Go listen to your Rush and your conservative talk radio. Don't worry, you still have Palin in 2012. LOL

    Also, there is still that birth certificate thing too. LOL

  9. And there we get to the unspoken crux of it all

    Expound to "you guys" please

    Don't even start. If you think Obama won because he has dark skin you are clueless. Without a clue. What percentage of Iowans are black? "You guys" crack me up. I'm done. If you don't know what I mean by that, then insert your own commentary. It doesn't matter. CNN just called the whole damn thing. I am about to watch OUR next President of the United States thank the country.

    But despite our divisions:

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