Thanks for the advice CBR Rider. I've been doing those things. I use the staggered stance too. I can get it up easy in first by rolling on the power. I clutch in second and its not a problem getting it up. I'm just trying not to bite off more than I can chew. So each time I go out and clutch it up in second it comes a bit higher and higher. I'm sure I'll get to bp soon enough. I am trying to power it up in third with the left foot on the passanger peg. I can only get it off the ground a few inches. Not sure if its my speed (50-60) or I'm not getting enough bounce, etc. That's why I'm looking for some stunters to roll with so I can see what they're doing.