robhawk

I got my 7yr old daughter one of these for Christmas, she loves it! http://www.razor-pocket-mod.com/

Im undercooked chicken? WTF!

Great outlook on the whole idea.... There has to be a balance to the power, who do you want to test it and have it, the idiots and cynical tyrants or the more stable countries that will use those weapons to maintain order, not create chaos.

mark down another!

I might come up, I have to check the schedule and will let you know on Mon.

ummmm I'm not at work..ummm.. :grin:

From http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year2007_0.html#usgs30250 Protection 41.2 0.0 82.9 158.2 282.3 —[+] Police services 19.6 0.0 11.7 71.9 103.2 —[+] Fire-protection services 0.0 0.0 0.0 37.1 37.1 —[+] Law courts 15.3 0.0 28.3 25.1 68.7 —[–] Prisons 6.3 0.0 42.9 24.1 73.3  —[+] Federal correctional activities (753) 6.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.3  —— Current Operations - Correctional (E04) 0.0 0.0 34.5 19.2 53.7  —— Current Operations - Corrections (E05) 0.0 0.0 7.0 3.8 10.8  —— Construction - Correctional Insti (F04) 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.6 1.7  —— Construction - Corrections - Othe (F05) 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1  —— Other Capital Outlay - Correction (G04) 0.0 0.0 0.3 0.3 0.6  —— Other Capital Outlay - Correction (G05) 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 —[+] R&D Public order and safety 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 —[+] Public order and safety n.e.c. 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 Current Operations - Correctional (E04) 0.0 0.0 34.5 19.2 53.7  —— Current Operations - Corrections (E05) 0.0 0.0 7.0 3.8 10.8  —— Construction - Correctional Insti (F04) 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.6 1.7 All bolded are state totals, alot less then the Welfare system in Billions

So how they spend their money negates the statistics they put on their charts from the sources you cant navigate? I think I’m tracking now, you’re basically saying your point of view is different then that of the site hence this could never be true. You would not even accept information from the source you gave. I’m not hating on you, it’s all in good sport, just be more objective in your views when checking your sources. The numbers on the American Heritage site are accurate, the ideas might not be agreeable with what you think. Don’t discredit the facts based on opinion, as you have stated to so many others. We should all get together and drink beer and debate this, which would be more fun. LOL

Well it says at the bottom of the graph the source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/ Look closer next time

I think It shows that my original source is not that skewed about the stats like you said, a lot is spent not just over 200B like you tried to say off the bat to discredit my source. I'm tired of spending my money on supporting individuals that freeload off my country. You did not agree with the source that I gave, so you went and found whatever numbers you could to disprove it. But that medical is the medical that is spent on welfare, not private insurance like I pay for. Its part of the free loading package, some people see it as a way of life and it cost’s the ones who try and work for a living. This my friend is just wrong in my eyes. And estimated or not I'm sure its pretty close.

read your damn source and quit trying to skew everyone elses points —[+] Health care services (551) 233.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 233.9  —— Federal Intergovernmental - Healt (B42) 0.0 -25.0 0.0 0.0 -25.0  —— Federal Intergovernmental - Publi (B79) 0.0 -225.6 0.0 0.0 -225.6  —— Current Operations - Health - Oth (E32) 0.0 0.0 33.7 39.7 73.4  —— Current Operations - Hospitals (E36) 0.0 0.0 43.3 67.4 110.7  —— Current Operations - Public Welfa (E74) 0.0 0.0 269.0 3.3 272.3  —— Construction - Health - Other (F32) 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.6 1.2  —— Construction - Hospitals (F36) 0.0 0.0 1.9 2.4 4.3  —— Other Capital Outlay - Health - O (G32) 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.4 0.8  —— Other Capital Outlay - Hospitals (G36) 0.0 0.0 0.8 2.2 that is under medical not seniors, look it up here: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year2007_0.html#usgs30210 I even left out 3.3B now your trying to discredit the source you brought to the table? WTF dude?

Where you obtained your acquaintance, comrade? \ Edit: HAHA Im slow I get it now

OK lets also add from your source the other factors in supporting the free loaders.. some might be wrong so I will under shoot. But I figure at least Medical needs added for sure. Defense (FY 2007): 653.9B Welfare (FY 2007): 254.2B(federal)+121.4B(state costs)+82.9B(local costs)=423.1 + Health care services (FY2007):269.0B (from state but still money)= total 692.1B Doesnt matter if the money is federal or state, still comes out of our pockets.

What’s wrong with those ideas? Not saying I agree with everything from the site, but they pull their info from all the same sources you call credible, the government. You have one political view, I have another, they will never meet, and so be it. Now your putting words in peoples mouths, I presented information and that is all, anyone can do with it what they want. The numbers and stats from that site are just that, facts. Prove the figures wrong and then come talk, how they are worded and put together is purely political view, as is anything.

And many more facts and info on the subject from: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/Test030701b.cfm

My only question is, economics aside, is why should we pay for these lazy ass people that do not contribute to society? I work for a living, served my country, fought in a war, and I bust my ass daily still. I'm tired of paying for lazy sacks or crap that do nothing but use resources. It’s the principal of it all for me, I don’t want my country paying for lazy sacks of crap that don’t care about it enough to contribute anything. There should be no free rides for anyone; individuals in this country feel they are owed something by it. This is BS and needs to stop, they need to get up and help or GTFO! I personally will pay extra to get rid of them all, I don’t care about all the hippy rights BS for lazy people. My country does not owe them shit and I would love to see the day when they learn that, there is always a job anywhere, pay might not be great but you can survive. The whole excuse that the will starve and steal is moot, because that just comes back to them being lazy and not wanting to work, or feeling that they are better then a certain job. Sorry if I piss people off but I love my country and hate the asshats that just suck up its resources and never give anything back. Like I said before, the military is always hiring and will provide a good life, but the individuals were talking about are too damn lazy to make the commitment.

I "LOL" at your avatar every time I see it Isaac.

I just look at it this way, I joined the Army to not use govt programs and earn my way. I have no respect for lazy people that refuse to pull their own weight in society. Thus making me feel that they are useless and dont deserve benefits. I worked my A$$ off to get to where I am, the military is always hiring.

I say we require some type of service, ie some sort of community service program when enrolled to receive benefits. Why should it be free when the grounds of the city owned property needs cleaned? Or something as simple as a partnership with business to even clean them. Our work programs are sad and need revamped, more partnership between the department of job and family services and the welfare people, and local big business would create a circle that could benefit all.

No its all done now, the order for the troops has been placed. Thanks tho!

Showed my buddy mrbretts bike and he said it looked just like it and the guy fits his discription... anyone have mrbretts number to call him? Make sure hes ok.. the rider had a black and red jacket on.

They went down on the strech between Cleveland and Shrock

One of my coworkers just told me a rider was down on cooper rd in Westerville, he was up and walking around and looking his bike over so appears ok. The bike was a green sport bike? Anyone know if Mrbrett was riding to work tonight I know he works in the area.