yep, the guy with the orange shirt on... the dude who crashed is the one who was hauling ass at midohio as you packed your shit and went home, flounder.... but i highly doubt there was any point where monger was in over his head... thats why i've learned that everyone that thinks they're fast proves their not when they grab a handful of brake...i think there are quite a few of us that have learned never to trust that the person in front us is about to do what is expected of them as a racer.. otherwise we'd just pass them instead of hit them