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4DAIVI PAI2K5

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  1. Just goofing around. Wanted to see what a build costs, in general. Used AR15partsfinder.com, and then searched amazon.com. Obviously can beat prices and/or shipping at gunshows and some gunshops.

    But in general, approximately $650 for parts, $100 for shipping.

    Shipping is generally cheaper at amazon.com, but some parts are higher priced.

    And with careful watching and searching, most all of the prices can be found cheaper yet.

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    AR15partsfinder.com

    lower receiver Anderson Mfg AM15 fatboytactical.net 74.95 10.00  

    upper receiver Surplus Ammon & Arms surplusammo.com 74.99 9.91  

    barrel Anderson Mfg M4 andersonrifles.net 119.00 11.79  

    bolt carrier group P-Tac BCG palmettostatearmory.com 89.99 7.00  

    lower part kit RRA riflegear.com 59.99 6.99  

    charging handle unknown amazon.com 18.95 4.65  

    upper part kit Palmetto State Armory amazon.com 71.95 free  

    gas block-rail height YHM brownells.com 59.70 7.95  

    gas tube Dewey - 16" barrel brownells.com 11.99 7.95  

    muzzle device DPMS A1 brownells.com 7.49 7.95  

    hand guard Mission First Tactical cheaperthandirt.com 21.26 12.16  

    M4 buttstock Global Military-complete heroestactical.com 36.99 9.95

    total parts 647.25                        

    total shipping 96.30

    total 743.55

     

    amazon.com

    lower receiver Anderson Mfg AM15 fatboytactical.net 74.95 10.00  

    upper receiver DRD Tactical amazon.com 114.99 4.49  

    barrel Anderson Mfg M4 andersonrifles.net 119.00 11.79  

    bolt carrier group Rock City Arms amazon.com 113.95 4.49  

    lower part kit LPK amazon.com 54.99 5.12  

    charging handle unknown amazon.com 18.95 4.65  

    upper part kit Palmetto State Armory amazon.com 71.95 free  

    gas block-rail height GRG amazon.com 11.65 6.24  

    gas tube Veriforce Tactical amazon.com 8.99 4.99  

    muzzle device Tactical Model amazon.com 16.95 free  

    hand guard Magpul amazon.com 20.00 4.99  

    M4 buttstock Acid Tactical amazon.com 39.99 3.99

    total parts 666.36

    total shipping 60.75

    total 727.11

     

    edit: cheapest store bought I could find is $683.22 at grabagun.com 5.99 shipping.

    http://grabagun.com/palmetto-state-armory-m4-orc-16-556-mil-spec.html

     

     

    Palmetto keeps having everything you need but the lower deals for like 499. Then lowers can be had for 80-100

     

    I think we're both in search for one of those, lol. I'll have to stop on down for sure. Maybe next month!?! I'll be heading down to OPOTA in Oct.

    Think we are going to plan a day of drills range day on the 29th. No just blasting we are going to run it like a class and put some work in. 

  2. Nice setup! Love the light. I agree, not a fan of the UMP subguns. I'll stick with the MP5.

    Thanks, now If I can just find a sugar mama to buy me the KAC front sight, then it is time to start my Mk12 Mod 0.

     

     

    Havn't shot the MP5... yet. Come on down. 

  3. Fair enough.  Never had an OVI so I don't know the process (not accusing you of having one).  

     

    What about people who beat the charges?  They've already been punished to a certain extent...?  Flip side - what if they didn't suspend immediately and that same person OVI'd the next day...?

    It's part of my job.

     

    First, driving isn't a right guaranteed by the Constitution.  

     

    Second if you read the fine print on the paper when you sign for your license's it says you will submit to a test and blah blah blah. That is why refusing a test has a longer period of suspension when taking an failing a test. Also why you can ask for the judge during your first hearing ( has to be within 5 days) to have your license back. 

     

    Third as I said in my previous post you are only read the notice of susp. portion of the BMV 2255 form after you have A) refused the test (see #2) or have tested over the legal limit. 

     

    If a blood test is done and has to be sent out for results license are not susp. until results are back, you are issued a citation and given a court date. 

  4. Suspension is not a punishment.  Arrest is not a punishment, it's a means of gaining control of a situation until you can figure out what is going on.

     

    I guess it doesn't make sense when compared to a DUI suspect who doesn't lose his license until convicted.  Definitely a double standard.

    OVI are suspended, when the BMV 2255 form's Notice of Susp. is read by the officer after the subject test above .08 on a datamaster or intoxicalizer in the state of Ohio. 

  5. Really like to know what this is really about. Whatever it is better be a damn good reason. Some trigger happy post turtle is going to start WW3.

    Natural gas pipe lines

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  6. The second one with the 9c came directly from Old faithful.  That's what came with my holster kit. I hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it. When the firearm is loaded, the trigger is not visible, but I agree w/ you its not a good thing. 

     Interesting. 

  7. The last time off shore mil spec imports were banned, the production moved to the USA. It was a boost to the economy and a boost to the American gun market. Very probable the same will happen this time as well.

     

    Conversely, the previous ban covered this, and not many exceptions were made. This closes those exceptions, I guess. Till another administration's executive order changes it.

     

    edit: The registering to corporation? Don't care. Most of it was movie studios wanting authentic firearms. And companies renting to movie studios. And they have plenty of stock already. (And they probably could get an exception anyway, again.)

     

    The trust route is widely used for suppressors, short barrels and machine guns. I allows anyone listed on the trust to take the item to the range. When you pass away you get taken off the trust. With out it who ever is in possession of the item when you pass is now commeting a felony, and has to pay another 200 dollars and do another transfer. Have a sheriff that things only his boys should have access to suppressors etc. Now your out of luck. 

  8. the CAUSE of the death in that case is a car accident, not marijuana. sure, its a marijuana RELATED death, and the drug use can be a contributing factor, but its not the CAUSE.

    pretty sure what he was trying to say is that you can't OD on it like you can pretty much everything else out there

     

    i thought the whole point here was that we dont want people wasting government assitance? the guy who proposed the law said "It is time that we recognize that many families are trying to survive in drug-induced poverty". but somehow alcohol induced poverty is OK? how is it a waste if someone buys a dime bag, but if they buy a case of beer and a carton of smokes it's not? just "because beer is legal" is a weak argument against it.

    the only people this will catch are people who smoke pot anyway. since it stays in your system for 30+ days, and the hard drugs, the ones that are truly dangerous and "poverty inducing" are out of your system in a day or three. so someone smokes a joint on a friday night, then three weeks later they get tested and boom, they are in trouble... three weeks later. but if you use meth, you're fine just as long as you dont use the day before your drug test. then you can go back to spending every dollar on tweaking out. how does that fix anything?

    if the true point was to HELP PEOPLE, then alcohol and tobacco would be included, as they cause much more harm to society than anyone smoking a joint.

    the real fact of the matter is that this isnt about helping people, and it's not about saving taxpayer money. first, its political play so this guy can say "hay look what i tried to do" and a bunch of people who are ignorant to the true facts about welfare drug use rates and testing costs will say "HAY U DID GREAT JOB!!!1".

     it plays off their prejudice that everyone on welfare is using drugs, when it's simply not true. the welfare drug use rate mirrors that of the general public. about 3%. every other state where this has been tried, has found that they spent more money on the testing than they saved by kicking 7 people off the programs. do you spend 30K to save 4K?

     

    second, its about MAKING money. who owns the drug testing company that this guy wants to use? how much did they donate to his campaign? is this something like florida where the governor pushed really hard for welfare drug testing, and then the company that won the contract to do the testing just happened to be OWNED by his wife? its definitely about money, but not saving taxpayer money. its more about putting money in the pocket of this guy and his buddies.

     

    Hard drugs wont be outta their system because they are so hooked on them they wont stop even if they know they will be tested. I deal with this shit daily. People brag about getting their free money, while making sure you know they have the newest Iphone, Jordans, gold necklace... 

  9. Lots of wealthy felons using trust funds to buy machine guns......obama is as worthless as he is, well worthless. 

    laws in place covering this new law....three I think, felons can't own guns, you can't straw purchase to bypass background check and local fuzz is supposed to have final say on those class III weapons, trust or private corp isn't excluded...

    not true there was not CLEO sign off on trust. Right on everything else. 

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