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Straight-walled cartridge rifles approved for hunting deer in Ohio


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Yup, but apparently sectional density is more important. But yeah, conflicting information there.

 

edit: Or more precisely, certain expanding bullets need a certain range of velocities on target to perform. If slower, pick a bullet that will perform at the slower velocity. Like a lead slug in a shotgun.

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Here is something. Chuck Hawks wisdom on deer hunting. Caliber selection.

Recommends a minimum 1500fps at target for expansion and 800ftlbs at target.

That would make most straight walled cartridges either not qualified or limited short range.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/bad_deer_cartridges.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/factory_loads_deer.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ideal_deer_cartridges.htm

since we're talking mostly handgun cartridges, better throw this one in:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/revolver_killing_power.htm

In this one, he turns around and says handgun cartridges can work for a woods gun:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/woods_rifles.htm

Interesting.

You'd think they'd multiply ft lbs x velocity=X and then yards=Y. And chart the rounds kill range from there. Leave out all the types of bullets crap.

Your link to the Rossi doesn't seem to work at least on my phone.

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Cabelas has a kit like your looking at.I have a ATI AR-15 A3 T14 .410 upper. I don't hunt with it for deer. Cool gadget but simply not accurate. They should have made it modified choke but its open. The slugs come out sloppy. 40 yards is all I trust it to group good. Only Federal shells fit due to they are the only .410 2.5" shell that is made short enough and at consistent length to not get stuck in the magazine. All the other brand shells are longer. Its weird. For the money for that 50b and the price of shells for it, I'd get a old school big cal lever.

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Interesting.

You'd think they'd multiply ft lbs x velocity=X and then yards=Y. And chart the rounds kill range from there. Leave out all the types of bullets crap.

Your link to the Rossi doesn't seem to work at least on my phone.

Yeah, usually impressed with Chuck Hawk stuff, but this is confusing. Added a link to the tacti cool lever. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4146/5085636648_dd528dc326_b.jpg I looked at revolver cartridge lever carbines, and I like the Rossi 454 Cassull. 75% more power than a 44mag. A baby 45-70. But nearly impossible to find one.

 

edit: Changed link to another source. That first one started blocking.

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All this angst over allowing straight walled case cartridges to hunt deer in Ohio! I am all for it.......

Finally, I can legally hunt with my 1873 Springfield....or have a good excuse to buy a lever action in 45-70. I

mean really, after 25+ years of using the same Mossberg, it is time for a different deer gun, really. It still kills deer with a single shot, but it is time for something new.....

There will be some dumbasses out there with less than ideal calibers, but, IMO, not that many. Hell, there will still be more dumbasses with 12 gauges than pistol cartridges in rifles......

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All this angst over allowing straight walled case cartridges to hunt deer in Ohio! I am all for it.......

There will be some dumbasses out there with less than ideal calibers, but, IMO, not that many. Hell, there will still be more dumbasses with 12 gauges than pistol cartridges in rifles......

I still say that Ohio is behind the times in not allowing the use of rifles for hunting. All our neighboring states allow rifles, and Indiana is much flatter then Ohio.

Just like the whole "fast rider on a slow bike" analogy, and idiot behind a gun is an idiot behind any gun. The proper sportsman will select the correct caliber for them.

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