can the global warming correct itself without our help?

[ReconRat]

What I saw was the data on both poles and the amount of sea ice. It's breaking all records for both melting AND freezing. Even larger amounts of ocean are freezing. This is because it's both thin ice, and the previous melt left the water less salty, it freezes easier. But thin or thick, it reflects heat and sunlight. Is this the planet's method of regulating temperatures? Is it enough to lower temperatures? Is this how ice ages start? Whip the temps up and down and wind up with glaciers?

Edited October 4, 2014 by ReconRat

[bloodninja420]

My understanding of the data is that global temperatures haven't risen in the last 17 years at all. This fact tends to be glossed over by those making a living studying global warming or advocating against industrial civilization.

[2talltim]

Have you not seen Day After Tomorrow? Geesh

[Gump]

It's air traffic messing with the flow.

[Strictly Street]

What I saw was the data on both poles and the amount of sea ice. It's breaking all records for both melting AND freezing. Even larger amounts of ocean are freezing. This is because it's both thin ice, and the previous melt left the water less salty, it freezes easier. But thin or thick, it reflects heat and sunlight. Is this the planet's method of regulating temperatures? Is it enough to lower temperatures? Is this how ice ages start? Whip the temps up and down and wind up with glaciers?

 

 

Much talk on both sides of the coin on this one.

 

Interesting to note the main heat source for planet earth is almost never figured into the equations.

That would be the Sun, which does not have a fixed output. Solar activity does make a difference.

 

With that said, the ability of the poles and heat sink actions of the oceans would seem to be a factor in the regulation of the Earths temperature. Although as understood today what that role is seems to be unclear. But seeing it in action looks like it does something.

 

On the other hand, government funding for research that does not result in something to tax, seems a little far fetched.

To be fair our government does fund some things seemingly just out of curiosity such as this one;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/09/02/why-the-federal-government-spent-3-million-to-study-lesbian-obesity/

Which was one of my biggest concerns </s>

Edited October 6, 2014 by Strictly Street

[YSR_Racer_99]

Interesting to note the main heat source for planet earth is almost never figured into he equations.

That would be the Sun, which does not have a fixed output. Solar activity does make a difference.

 

When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, they preached that mama's White Rain was punching holes in the atmosphere, letting in more sunlight and letting out "good gases". 

[ReconRat]

Ok, so NASA doesn't know either. Apparently too many variables.

 

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/index.html#.VDQ5V_ldWAg

[Anden]

Yes it will. But first the planet will wipe us humans off its surface. Or some other natual disater that will blacken the sky so the planet will cool and most life will die off.

[Bubba]

Ummm, guys, it's just a wee bit more complicated than how much surface area of polar ice is melting or freezing….

 

The main issue with the increase in hydrocarbon emissions is an increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide.  First, CO2 is obviously a greenhouse gas, although not necessarily one of the big actors--methane is a much better compound for trapping radiant heat, and the major sources of methane are organic bio-degradation, termite activity and bovine flatulence….ahem.  However, CO2 is mostly absorbed by our oceans, which act as huge, nearly infinite sinks for the gas.  Problem is that the oceans no longer have a near 'infinite' capacity to absorb our excess HCs.  As the oceans have become more saturated with CO2, it has acidified the water.  As the pH of the oceans drop, the ability of the water to absorb CO2 also diminishes, so it's very much a double-edged sword.  At some point, the theory is that our oceans will stop absorbing CO2 and may even begin to out-gas, which would lead to a rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 and corresponding rapid increase in world-wide temps.  This isn't even taking into account the effect ocean acidification has on the life balance in the ocean's eco-system, which is still one of the primary food sources for the world's population.

 

I readily agree that the science of global warming is still far from being 100% predictive, but you'd have to be totally uninformed and uneducated about the effects the industrial revolution has had on carbon dioxide emissions over the last two centuries to ignore the potential for environmental and economic disaster caused by rising global temps.  I doubt that my generation will live to see the compounding effects of our choices, but my children,  your children, and our grandchildren will most certainly experience the effects.

[ReconRat]

Yup, NASA knows three things clearly.

 

"Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives."

 

"There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response."

 

"They also show that in the past, large changes in climate have happened very quickly, geologically-speaking: in tens of years, not in millions or even thousands."

 

That last one should cause everyone to pay attention. It isn't impossible to have a 30 year ice age while waiting for global warming to kick back in. Or vice versa. Sudden warming followed by a period of rapid cooling.

 

Bubba has a good point about damage to the oceans. A percent of the world population depends on ocean fish for their main source of protein. Roughly one billion. That's around 14%. To shut that off is a major change, effecting mostly Asian countries, third world populations, and coastal communities. Combined with over fishing, it's going to happen. Results won't be pretty. People will starve, move away, and fight as always happens.

 

NASA sees where the carbon dioxide comes from. It is vast majority from recently developed countries. China and India, and to a lesser extent, Eastern Europe. There is very little we can do here (or there), other than invent new methods and means of energy for them to use.

 

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Sea Level Rise

Global Temperature Rise

Warming Oceans

Shrinking Ice Sheets

Declining Arctic Sea Ice

Glacial Retreat

Extreme Events

Ocean Acidification

Decreased Snow Cover

[okeefe01]

I don't buy in completely to all of the "climate change" science.  There's a statistic for every argument.  They'll say that the average temperature has risen about two degrees in the last 100 years.  But 100 years ago, people in the U.S. were still using outhouses; so how accurate could the temperature logs from 100 years ago, have been?

I took some anthropology classes in the late 1980's and at that time the general consensus was that there is and ice age on the way.  There was all kinds of science that supposedly showed that the earth was cooling and that the sun was slowly running out of gas.  I even remember them saying that the musk ox in Sweden, that require cold temperatures, were migrating south lower than they have been since the last ice age.  This supposedly was proof that the earth was cooling.

 

But, that being said, if you want to see how quickly and significantly humans can in fact change the climate, look up the dust bowl of the 1930's.  I think that shows that we unfortunately can impact the climate.

[Strictly Street]

 

 

 

But, that being said, if you want to see how quickly and significantly humans can in fact change the climate, look up the dust bowl of the 1930's.  I think that shows that we unfortunately can impact the climate.

 

 

Not a great example. Effected only part of one continent not the whole planet and certainly not the "climate" of the planet.

 

Better example might be Krakatoa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa  but, unfortunately that didn't have anything to do with people other than the ones it killed.

 

I do remember in the '70's people talking about 'Global Cooling' and how it was going to kill us all.

 

Now it's 'Global Warming' which hasn't happened on schedule. So they have changed the name to 'Climate Change'.

Apparently to cover their embarrassment that we all aren't treading water or dead yet.

 

Somehow, I'm thinking the planet will do whatever it wants to and we don't have a lot to say about it.

The 'Climate' has been changing since the planet began. Thousands/Millions of years when it wasn't habitable at all.

Taking a narrow slice of time to make claims about it seems a little presumptuous on our part.

 

We aren't nearly as powerful as we think we are.

 

Interesting article:

 

 

Scientists and others on a team assembled by the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, which focuses on free-market solutions to today’s problems, say the “scare” of global warming from the use of carbon fuels and other human activities “is over.”

 

It’s “past time” for the world to realize that and “stop the madness of wasting great sums of money on EPA’s imaginary threat,” contends Kenneth Haapala, the executive vice president of the Science and Environmental Policy Project at the Heartland Institute.

 

Institute experts said Thursday the Remote Sensing Systems, which provide data to NASA, NOAA and the National Science Foundation, have confirmed “the global mean surface temperature has not risen for 18 consecutive years.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/global-warming-scare-declared-over/#PwsettvFkxCgcScx.99

 

Don't think I've ever seen an article that had both sides of everything out there.

But, here is one part of the whole debunking thingie.

Edited October 13, 2014 by Strictly Street

[ReconRat]

Something that isn't well known, is that a big chunk of the temperature increase was simply a change in the way ocean temperatures are monitored. Instead of getting reports from ships and leaving it at that with blank spots, they started averaging in the blank spots. Suddenly the temperatures went up. Apparently it wasn't good math. Not much has happened since then for temperature changes, after what looked like a big jump.

[Strictly Street]

What is really interesting about "Global Warming" is what it's effects are predicted to be.

 

Here are a few:

Study: Global Warming Will Cause 180,000 More Rapes by 2099

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/climate-change-murder-rape

 

Claim: Global Warming will cause a deadly Jellyfish Invasion

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/08/claim-global-warming-will-cause-a-deadly-jellyfish-invasion/

 

Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/15/global-warming-likely-to-cause-colder-and-snowier-winters/20962706/

 

Study: Global Warming Will Lead to Fish Migration

http://americanlivewire.com/2014-10-13-study-global-warming-will-lead-fish-migration/

 

Global warming 'will cause malaria epidemic in Australia and Pacific Islands'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/globalwarming/3490944/Global-warming-will-cause-malaria-epidemic-in-Australia-and-Pacific-Islands.html

 

A complete list of things caused by global warming

Apologies for a temporary delay in updating the dead link list

AIDS, Afghan poppies destroyed, African holocaust, aged deaths, poppies more potent, Africa devastated,  Africa in conflict, African aid threatened,  aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pockets, air pressure changes,  airport farewells virtual, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Alaskan towns slowly destroyed, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy increase, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end,  amphibians breeding earlier (or not),  anaphylactic reactions to bee stings,  ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink,  Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk,   anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear,  Arctic tundra lost, Arctic warming (not), a rose by any other name smells of nothing, asteroid strike risk, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty,   atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased,  Baghdad snow, Bahrain under water,  bananas grow, barbarisation, bats decline,  beer and bread prices to soar, beer better,  beer worse, beetle infestation, beef shortage,  bet for $10,000, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billion homeless, billions face risk, billions of deaths,  bird loss accelerating, bird populations dying, bird strikes, bird visitors drop, birds confused, birds decline (Wales), birds driven north, birds face longer migrations, birds on long migrations threatened,  birds return early, birds shrink(Aus), birds shrink (USA), bittern boom ends, blackbirds stop singing, blackbirds threatened, Black Hawk down,  blizzards, blood contaminated, blue mussels return, borders redrawn,  bluetongue, brains shrink, brewers droop, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain one big city, Britain Siberian, Britain's bananas, British monsoon,  brothels struggle, brown Ireland, bubonic plague,  Buddhist temple threatened,  building collapse, building season extension, bushfires,   butterflies move north, butterflies reeling, butterfly saved, carbon crimes, caribou decline, Cambodian sex trade fuelled, camel deaths,  cancer, cancer deaths in England, cannibalism,  cataracts, cats more amorous, caterpillar biomass shift, cave paintings threatened,  chagas disease, childhood insomnia, children's mental health, chocolate shortage, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase,  clownfish get lost, coast beauty spots lost, cockroach migration, cod go south,  coffee threatened, coffee berry borer, coffee berry disease, cold climate creatures survive,  cold spells, cold spells (Australia), colder waters  (Long Island), cold wave (India), cold weather (world), cold winters, computer models, conferences, conflict, conflict with Russia,  consumers foot the bill, coral bleaching, coral fish suffer, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink, coral reefs twilight,  cost of trillions, cougar attacks, crabgrass menace,  cradle of civilisation threatened, creatures move uphill, crime increase, crocodile sex, crocodiles driven from water, crops devastated, crop failures increase, cross-breeding, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cryptococcal disease, curriculum change,  cyclones

 

I'm not kidding,  these are all the things going to go wrong due to "Global Warming". List continued in next post

 

[Strictly Street]

More of the list:

(Australia),   damselflies forced back to UK, danger to kid's health, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague,  daylight increase, deadly virus outbreaks, death rate increase (US), death rate drop, deaths to reach 6 million, decades of progress at risk, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, depression, desert advance,  desert retreat,  destruction of the environment,  dig sites threatened,  disasters, diseases move north, diving reefs closed, dog disease,  dozen deadly diseases - or not, drought,    ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, dust doubles,  earlier pollen season,  Earth axis tilt, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth crumbling, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down,  Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down,  earthquakes, earthquakes redux, El Niño intensification, end of the world as we know it, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, English villages lost, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing,  eutrophication, everyplace hit hardest, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (apes, human, civilisation, koalas, lizards,  logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod,  penguins, pikas, polar bears,   possums,  walrus,  tigers,  toads, turtles, pandas,  penguins, plants, ladybirds, rhinoceros, salmon, trout,  wild flowers, woodlice,  a million species, half of all animal and plant species, mountain species,  not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches, salamanders, tropical insects, flowers) experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage,  famine, farmers benefit, farmers go under, farm output boost, farming soil decline,  fashion disaster, fever, figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fires fanned in Nepal, fish bigger, fish catches drop, fish downsize,   fish deaf,  fish feminised, fish get lost, fish head north, fish lopsided, fish shrinking,  fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flies on Everest,  flood patterns change, floods,  floods of beaches and cities, flood of migrants, flood preparation for crisis, flora dispersed, Florida economic decline, flowers in peril, flowers wilt, flying squirrels move up, fog increase in San Francisco, fog decrease in San Francisco, food poisoning, food prices rise, food prices soar, food production increased,  food safety affected, food security threat (SA), football team migration,   forest decline, forest expansion, foundations threatened, foundations increase grants, frog with extra heads, frosts, frostbite, frost damage increased,   fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, fungi rot the world, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, geese decline in Hampshire, genetic changes, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, geysers imperiled, giant icebergs (Australia), giant icebergs (Arctic), giant oysters invade,  giant pythons invade, giant squid migrate, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat,   glacier grows (California), glaciers on Snowden, glacier wrapped, glass melts, global cooling,  glowing clouds,  golf course to drown, golf Masters wrecked, grain output drop (China), grain output stagnating (India), grandstanding, grasslands wetter, gravity shift,  Great Barrier Reef 95% dead,  great tits cope, greening of the North,  Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, haggis threatened, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome,    harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, health affected, health of children harmed, health risks, health risks (even more), heart deaths, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hedgehogs bald, hibernation affected,   hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late,  homeless 50 million, home runs, hornets,  human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health risk, human race oblivion, human rights violations, hurricanes,  hurricane reduction, hurricanes fewer, hurricanes more intense, hurricanes not,  hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, hyphthermia deaths, ice age, ice hockey extinct, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, icebergs, ice sheet tipping point,  illegal immigration, illness and death, inclement weather, India drowning, infrastructure failure (Canada),  indigestion, industry threatened, infectious diseases,  inflation in China, insect explosion, insect invasion, insurance premium rises, Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, invasion of alien worms, invasion of Antarctic aliens,  invasion of Asian carp, invasion of cane toads, invasion of caterpillars,  invasion of cats,  invasion of crabgrass, invasion of herons, invasion of jellyfish, invasion of king crabs, invasion of lampreys, invasion of midges, invasion of pine beetles, invasion of rats (China), invasion of slugs,  island disappears, islands sinking, Italy robbed of pasta, itchier poison ivy, Japan's cherry blossom threatened,  jellyfish explosion, jets fall from sky,  Kew Gardens taxed, kidney stones, killer cornflakes, killing us, kitten boom, koalas leaves inedible, koalas under threat, krill decline,  lake empties, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, large trees decline, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful,  lawyers' income increased (surprise surprise!),  lawyers want more, legionnaires' surge,  lives lost, lizards super intelligent, lives saved, lobsters grow,  Loch Ness monster dead, locust plagues suppressed, low oxygen zones threaten sea life, lush growth in rain forests,  Lyme disease, Major vegetation shifts,  Malaria,   Malaria decline,  malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, mammoth ivory bonanza, manatees battle, mango harvest fails, Maple production advanced, Maple syrup shortage, marmots fatter, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, Meaching (end of the world), Meat eating to stop, Mediterranean rises, megacryometeors, Melanoma, Melanoma decline, mental health decline, mental illness, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, methane runaway, melting permafrost, Mexican climate migrant flood, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration,  migratory birds huge losses, microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, milk production lost, minorities hit, monkeys at risk,  monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, moose dying, more bad air days,   more research needed, mortality increased, mosquitoes adapting, mountain (Everest) shrinking,  mountaineers fears,  mountains break up, mountains green and flowering,   mountains taller, mortality lower, Mubarak fall, murder rate increase,  musk ox decline, Myanmar cyclone, narwhals at risk, narwhals suffocate, National Parks damaged, National security implications, native wildlife overwhelmed, natural disasters  quadruple, neurological diseases,  new islands, next ice age, NFL threatened, Nile delta damaged, noctilucent clouds, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks dying,  oaks move north,  obesity, oblivion, ocean acidification, ocean acidification faster, ocean dead spots, ocean dead zones unleashed, ocean deserts expand, ocean salt extremes, ocean oxygen crisis,  ocean waves speed up,  Olympic Games to end, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened,   owls turn brown, oxygen depletion zones, oyster herpes, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, peat bogs problem, peat bogs no problem, penguin chicks frozen, penguin chicks smaller, penguins in the dark, penguin populations devastated, penguins replaced by jellyfish, penguins sex lives affected, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, pets in danger, phenology shifts,  pines decline, pirate population decrease, pirates run rampant, plankton blooms,   plankton plummeting, plankton wiped out, plants lose protein, plants march north, plants move uphill,  polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears deaf,  polar bears drowning,  polar bears fewer cubs,  polar tours scrapped,  pollination halved, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychiatric illness,  psychological effects,  puffin decline, pushes poor women into prostitution, rabid bats,  radars taken out, rail network threatened,  railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainforest destruction,  rape wave, refugees,  reindeer endangered, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, respiratory diseases worsen,  rice less fragrant, rice production fall, rice threatened, rice yields crash,  rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war,   river flow impacted, river rerouted, rivers raised, road accidents, roads wear out, robins rampant,   rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, rooftop bars, Ross river disease,    Russia under pressure, salinity reduction, salinity increase,  Salmonella,  salmon stronger, sardine run unpredictable, satellites accelerate, Schmallenberg virus,  school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sea snot, seals mating more, seismic activity, sewer bills rise, severe thunderstorms, sex change, sexual dysfunction,  sexual promiscuity, shark attacks, sharks booming, sharks hybridise, sharks moving north, sheep change colour, sheep shrink, shop closures, short-nosed dogs endangered,  shrimp sex problems, shrinking ponds, shrinking sheep,  shrinking shrine, Sidney Opera House wiped out, ski resorts threatened, slavery, skinks impacted, slow death,  smaller brains,  smog, snowfall decrease, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy,  snow thicker,  soaring food prices, societal collapse, soil change, soil subsidence, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, soybean crop to drop, space junk increase, space problem, spectacular orchids, spider danger in UK, spider bites to increase, spiders getting bigger, spiders invade Scotland,  squid aggressive giants, squid larger, squid population explosion, squid tamed, squirrels reproduce earlier, starfish sperm eaten by parasites, stingray invasion, storm damage costs rise, storms wetter,  stratospheric cooling, street crime to increase, subsidence, suicide, sunset displaced,  swordfish in the Baltic, Tabasco tragedy, taxes, tea flavour change, tectonic plate movement, teenage prostitution,   terrorists (India), thatched cottages at risk, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tigers eat people, tigers drown, tomatoes rot, tornado outbreak, tourism increase, toxic bacteria, toxic seaweed,  trade barriers, trade winds weakened, traffic jams,  transport snarl, transportation threatened, tree foliage increase (UK),   tree growth slowed, tree growth faster, trees grow too fast, trees in trouble, trees less colourful,  trees more colourful, trees lush, trees on Antarctica, treelines change, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, truffle shortage, truffles down,  truffles increase, turtles crash, turtle feminised, turtles lay earlier, UFO sightings, UK coastal impact, UK Katrina,  vampire bats,  Venice flooded,  volcanic eruptions, volcanoes awakened in Iceland,  walnuts threatened, walrus pups orphaned,  walrus stampede,  walruses come ashore, wars over water, wars sparked, wars threaten billions, wasps, water bills double,   water shortage to increase vegetarianism, wave of natural disasters, waves bigger, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weather patterns last longer, Western aid cancelled out,  West Nile fever, whale beachings, whales lose weight, whales move north,  whales wiped out, wheat rust in Syria, wheat yields crushed in Australia,  wild boars thrive, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, winds stronger, winds weaker,  wine - Australian baked, , wine industry damage (California),  wine industry disaster (US),  wine - more English, wine - no more French , wine -  England too hot, wine -German boon,  wine passé (Napa), wine - Scotland best,  wine stronger, winters in Britain colder, winter in Britain dead, witchcraft executions, wolverine decline, wolverines vanish, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, women cheat on vacation, workers laid off, World at war, World War 4,  Yellow fever, zebra mussel threat, zoonotic diseases.

 

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

 

At some point I get a little skeptical of the whole thing.

Edited October 14, 2014 by Strictly Street

[Pokey]

Relax.....we are all gonna die.

[max power]

Much talk on both sides of the coin on this one.

On the other hand, government funding for research that does not result in something to tax, seems a little far fetched.

To be fair our government does fund some things seemingly just out of curiosity such as this one;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/09/02/why-the-federal-government-spent-3-million-to-study-lesbian-obesity/

Which was one of my biggest concerns </s>

HEY!! I wanna know why there are so many fat dykes.

[redbarron77]

HEY!! I wanna know why there are so many fat dykes.

 

Not according to the internet!  Trust me, when I search for images of lesbians, they are all beautiful!

 

Now, back to Global Warming and how we are killing the earth.

[cmh_sprint]

Due to the polar vortex and extreme ice cover last year all of the Great Lakes are colder than their long term averages with Superior being 6+ degrees colder than the long term average. Scientists are hoping that the weather in the Great Lakes region is warmer than normal for the next month to keep the lakes from cooling too quickly. If they cool too quickly the lake effect snow machine gets turned off and could negate the record water level rebound the lakes had this year. Lake Superior has risen over 18" since April.