smccrory Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Oh hell yes!!! Agreed, PA may end up being a heck of a hold-out. That reminds me to get over there sometime soon to file for my out-of-state permit. Anyone have a favorite office that's close to the border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I might just have to renew mine early. Gonna have to go talk to my local sheriff friend about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Anyone have a favorite office that's close to the border? http://www.pafoa.org/counties/?county_issuesNonResidentLTCFs=1 Call them, tell them you are out of state and see what they say. Some will give you crap, most/many will bend over backwards to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.pafoa.org/counties/?county_issuesNonResidentLTCFs=1 Call them, tell them you are out of state and see what they say. Some will give you crap, most/many will bend over backwards to help you. You rock, thank you Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I might just have to renew mine early. Gonna have to go talk to my local sheriff friend about it Keep us posted, the law says only 90 day before it expires. BUT we don't know what the rule is from TX or WI for sure yet...so don't panic. I have pinged the Ohio AG for clarification on the issue. TX and WI will post a full copy of the agreement at some point.....then we will know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I got mine in Reading. Took about 2 hours with an apology for taking so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Keep us posted, the law says only 90 day before it expires. BUT we don't know what the rule is from TX or WI for sure yet...so don't panic. I have pinged the Ohio AG for clarification on the issue. TX and WI will post a full copy of the agreement at some point.....then we will know for sure.My sheriff is also my local gun shop owner, FFL, and CCW instructor, so he stays up on stuff. I'll try to pick his brain soon. Edited March 24, 2015 by mango_sv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Shit just got real, five more states announced. F'ing TEXAS is on the list. New Hampshire ffs!!....Just got to figure out a way to get reciprocity with PA...that is going to be tough. http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHAG/bulletins/f9f0aa?reqfrom=share Edit: Be careful, Texas and Wisconsin might be only for licenses issued from today on.....because of the new way we do background checks.I didnt see NH included? Is it? That would be huge as I have family there and VT, and obviously VT is kind of do whatever you want kind of thing already.... EDIT: I could open link, that's awesome! Edited March 24, 2015 by madcat6183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) LLC is same. Just list next of kin as officers on the LLC.And two completely different departments handle CCW as opposed to NFA. It will be handled. They've ben sued already over it. If you've a clean background he now has to sign off. Stop being negative and do it.They have 45 days on your CCW, they'll use it. You should already know thatThats the thing I don't get. I have a OVI 5+ years ago, lost count, other than that, nothing. I know of a ton of people with way worse than that who get their licenses in a few days, me not so much. I think they hate me Good to know they already went to court over it, guess that means it should be easier which would be nice. Edited March 24, 2015 by madcat6183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 My sheriff is also my local gun shop owner, FFL, and CCW instructor, so he stays up on stuff. I'll try to pick his brain soon. Ask him what he thinks about revoking a CCW..which he can do then instantly redoing it for peeps. But we need to see what the long term effects are. I am ok on this issue I realized. Mine renews in February of 2016 and my PA is good until April of 2016 and bottom line I will have to renew the PA one anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 If anyone from the Cbus area plans another trip to PA for a PA license let me know, in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I didnt see NH included?Last sentence, first paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Last sentence, first paragraph.Yep saw it once I posted, sorry. That is awesome too especially since we fly into Manchester to visit said family members in both states. Plus lots of land where they live and lots of guns, so I can actually bring my own now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wisconsin posted their new rules regarding Ohio: "Ohio license ISSUED OR RENEWED ON OR AFTER 03/23/2015" http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/conceal-carry/reciprocity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just talked to the AG, they are going to try and get Wisconsin to change their mind.....he is pretty sure Texas is going to let us slide and we will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Good looking out. Well I guess hopefully mine doesn't get done too soon for renewal and it will be posted past the 3/23, which being that they still haven't called I would assume it will that's another state to check off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just talked to the AG, they are going to try and get Wisconsin to change their mind.....he is pretty sure Texas is going to let us slide and we will be ok.Hope it happens. Will make my Cross Country bike trip easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Can't wait for my super duper high capacity assault mag clipazines with extra lethality to kill babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Can't wait for my super duper high capacity assault mag clipazines with extra lethality to kill babies.Yea but all that lead ruins them for soup.Who remembers dead baby jokes from the late 70s? Edited March 25, 2015 by smccrory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Truly Tasteless Jokes....the book series that taught me about sex and racism.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Truly Tasteless Jokes....the book series that taught me about sex and racism....Awesome - ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 What about 'spite malice and revenge'? The book that taught me how to fuck with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I took the bait and read the most recent comments. Seems to be a typical debate about general 'gun control' issues rather than much factual debate about any of the changes in the law. The only thing I don't like is the reduction in training hours to receive a permit to carry. Hear me out on this... 1) I think it's a good PR move to require more training whenever possible. 2) some people legitimately need more training before they can safely carry a firearm. I'm including myself in that group. It's not that I feel as though I would be reckless or unsafe, but I have relatively little handgun experience, and I want to be CONFIDENT in my abilities before carrying a loaded firearm in public. To use a motorcycle metaphor, I would rather learn on a 250 and get comfortable on that before just streeting a 1000 from day 1. It's not that I don't know how to use the 1000, but I'm far from "comfortable" with it. I personally have the self-control to resist carrying a loaded weapon until I work through the process of safely handling it without barrel-sweeping bystanders or being a dumbass with securing it in my vehicle when it's not allowed in an establishment, etc. - I do not trust everyone to be as vigilant as I am. That said, I also feel there should be a (strict) way to opt-out of the entire 8-hour (or 12-hour) training requirement. Some sort of skills test that would allow experienced shooters to demonstrate a mastery of safety and accuracy. This would need to be legitimately tough, or it would become a joke. And the people administering the test would have to maintain their integrity and not just pass their buddies who don't want to take the classes. /rant. Overall, a pretty positive legislative change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Got a call today, CHL renewal is done, only took 35 Days so they beat the 44 of last time. Hoping that its marked past the 23 or whatever the WI date is, for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The only thing I don't like is the reduction in training hours to receive a permit to carry. Hear me out on this... 1) I think it's a good PR move to require more training whenever possible. 2) some people legitimately need more training before they can safely carry a firearm. I'm including myself in that group. It's not that I feel as though I would be reckless or unsafe, but I have relatively little handgun experience, and I want to be CONFIDENT in my abilities before carrying a loaded firearm in public. To use a motorcycle metaphor, I would rather learn on a 250 and get comfortable on that before just streeting a 1000 from day 1. It's not that I don't know how to use the 1000, but I'm far from "comfortable" with it. I personally have the self-control to resist carrying a loaded weapon until I work through the process of safely handling it without barrel-sweeping bystanders or being a dumbass with securing it in my vehicle when it's not allowed in an establishment, etc. - I do not trust everyone to be as vigilant as I am. That said, I also feel there should be a (strict) way to opt-out of the entire 8-hour (or 12-hour) training requirement. Some sort of skills test that would allow experienced shooters to demonstrate a mastery of safety and accuracy. This would need to be legitimately tough, or it would become a joke. And the people administering the test would have to maintain their integrity and not just pass their buddies who don't want to take the classes. /rant. Overall, a pretty positive legislative change.I agree with this. A buddy at work is an ex-marine, now gone NRA instructor for almost 10 years. He hosts CHL classes most weekends, as well as other shooting/training programs, and he had issues with what subject matter to cut from his course when the requirement was 12 hours. Now he needs to figure out where to cut another 4 hours of instruction. He's not happy. He truly enjoys educating future carriers and pushes inexperienced shooters to take his proficiency courses in addition to the now-more-anemic CHL class. I understand it's a shooters responsibility to manage in range time to keep skills up, but gun laws and proper safety plays as big a part, if not more importantly. Proficiency testing may be a good way to give educated and experienced shooters a fast track option through the class, but I'd vote an extensive written test should be mandantory followed by the shooting test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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