Eating high fiber cereal for breakfast reduces risk of death by 19%... Wait, what?

[Casper]

So I'm reading this article: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/health/cereal-long-life/index.html

 

I get to the third paragraph:

 

Some scientists at the Harvard School of Public Health have been researching the impact of cereal fiber on diet for years. They found that people who reported in surveys a diet rich in cereal fiber lived longer than those who chose less well in the morning. They had a 19% reduced risk of death, compared to those who ate the least amount of cereal fiber.

 

 

So you're saying if I eat a high fiber cereal for breakfast every day I could have a 19% chance of not dying? I mean, isn't everyone's risk of death at 100%? 

[ReconRat]

statistics mess everything up

 

just eat the foods on this list and forget.about.it

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/high-fiber-foods/art-20050948

[MidgetTodd]

In 100% of the deaths I have been on none had a bowl of high fiber cereal anywhere near the body so they may be onto something here. Coincidence

[Gixxus Christ!]

Carry fiber everywhere. Check.

[NinjaDoc]

So I'm reading this article: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/health/cereal-long-life/index.html

 

I get to the third paragraph:

 

 

So you're saying if I eat a high fiber cereal for breakfast every day I could have a 19% chance of not dying? I mean, isn't everyone's risk of death at 100%? 

 

 

some thing like mortality rate or death rate can be used to compare outcomes/ one among zillions these stats guys use.

 

 

 

for eg: No fiber diet people >> 50 death / 1000 no fiber guys

 

High fibre people >> only 31 death /1000 high fiber guys

 

 

they assume that its the high fiber that might have played a role to save some peeps

 

 

This is just my assumption on what they meant, and mostly I am wrong when I assume

Edited March 27, 2015 by NinjaDoc

[Bubba]

Scientifically speaking….

 

 

….statistical correlation….

 

 

….does NOT necessarily prove….

 

 

….causal relationship.

 

 

However, science has shown that a high fiber diet will make you poop more.  Fact.

 

 

So….larger, more frequent bowel movements equal 19% lower incidence of death?

Edited March 27, 2015 by Bubba

[dpgasser]

[Gump]

Then there's the really old lady who swears by Dr. Pepper and chocolate. My guess would be genetics and don't get fat.

[Gixxus Christ!]

My guess would be genetics and don't get fat.

Fuck.

[Habi]

There are crazy correlations that mean nothing. How many Crack heads eat a high fiber cereal? Most likely people who eat grape nuts every morning eat well in general.

[Wojo72]

I guess that I need to rethink the whole "low carb" approach to eating.

[Mykill]

Crack heads are modern day cockroaches. They just don't die.

[Gixxus Christ!]

There are crazy correlations that mean nothing. How many Crack heads eat a high fiber cereal? Most likely people who eat grape nuts every morning eat well in general.

You are so right. Check out this collection of spurious correlations.

http://www.tylervigen.com/

[what]

that powder they pour on wounds isn't actually a coagulant, it's ground up grape nuts.

[zx3vfr]

Well ya. High fiber usually means high carbohydrates. So eat your high fiber ceral so you constantly have blood sugar spikes, become diabetic and have to be on prescription drugs to stay alive. Makes sense.

[blue03636]

^ lol

Edited March 29, 2015 by blue03636

[Gixxus Christ!]

Well ya. High fiber usually means high carbohydrates. So eat your high fiber ceral so you constantly have blood sugar spikes, become diabetic and have to be on prescription drugs to stay alive. Makes sense.

Spoken like a true ignoramus.

Fiber isn't digested like carbs are. In fact, to get the net carbs of any particular food you subtract the fiber from the carbs. High fiber does not necessarily mean high carb. In fact, because I'm a diabetic and have to watch what I eat, the high fiber choices are lower carb. For instance, the giant eagle brand high fiber tortillas are 1 third the carbs of a regular flour tortilla.

[DAC]

High correlation of non-motorcycle posts on motorcycle forum to true ignorami input.

Edited March 30, 2015 by DAC

[Casper]

High correlation of non-motorcycle posts on motorcycle forum to true ignorami input.

It's still cold out. Hell, ice is falling from the sky here currently.

[DAC]

Ah.

So, temperature correlates to ignorami input. (Current poster included.)

[Gixxus Christ!]

The amount of bullshit on this forum is inversely proportionate to the temperature outside.

[zx3vfr]

Cut out all grains. Meat eggs and vegitables and a little full fat dairy

[zx3vfr]

You do know in almost all studies that even high fiber foods to lower the net carbs, the blood sugar spike is simply delayed up to 3 hours.

[Gixxus Christ!]

Spikes happen. If you knew dick about diabetes you'd know that your bg will spike even in non diabetics. Spikes trigger the pancreas to produce insulin and then bg goes down to normal in a non diabetic. Hour to hour or even day to day bg numbers aren't that important. What's important is the hba1c. The amount of glucose that builds up on your hemoglobin over the 3 month lifespan. See, it's not spikes that cause damage, it's chronic hba1c percentage above 7. That's what causes nerve, eye, kidney and arterial damage.

[smccrory]

Spikes happen. If you knew dick about diabetes you'd know that your bg will spike even in non diabetics. Spikes trigger the pancreas to produce insulin and then bg goes down to normal in a non diabetic. Hour to hour or even day to day bg numbers aren't that important. What's important is the hba1c. The amount of glucose that builds up on your hemoglobin over the 3 month lifespan. See, it's not spikes that cause damage, it's chronic hba1c percentage above 7. That's what causes nerve, eye, kidney and arterial damage.

Where did your patience with obstinate overreach all of a sudden come from? Are we going to have to stage an OR intervention on you CSC??